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Old 04-18-2019, 03:38 AM
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Default 991.2 GT3 RS vs. Mclaren 600LT at Big Willow, Randy Pobst

Sorry if this has been shared already, didnít see it. Just saw the head 2 head of 3RS vs 600LT
GT3 RS was on cup 2 R tires, while the Mclaren was on Trofeo Rs.


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Old 04-18-2019, 04:08 AM
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Quite a surprise for the 600LT. Also I don’t trust any Italian car numbers unless it’s a customers car. Misrepresentation is something they’re just very comfortable with.

If you normalized the tires, the RS and 600LT should be neck and neck. The Cup 2 R’s are well ahead of the field.
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Old 04-18-2019, 08:47 AM
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The Trofeo R that comes standard on the 600LT is basically a cut slick, it's within a whisker of the Cup R.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:24 AM
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Tire size. Macca runs 225/285; RS 265/325. Macca needs more rubber.
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3RS clearly is magic and still as it always has punches well above its weight eclipsing much more expensive kit.

One damn impressive car.
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I think the 2 R is considered to be quicker than the Trofeo R, but yeah the big difference is tire size. I understand McLaren keeping the tire sizes smaller in the 570S, it really does increase the fun factor in canyon driving, but come on, the 600LT is the track weapon, it needs to go up a couple of sizes at least.
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Originally Posted by Gary(SF) View Post
I think the 2 R is considered to be quicker than the Trofeo R, but yeah the big difference is tire size. I understand McLaren keeping the tire sizes smaller in the 570S, it really does increase the fun factor in canyon driving, but come on, the 600LT is the track weapon, it needs to go up a couple of sizes at least.
Yeah, but the 600LT is TT and has a 120 hp advantage and more torque. A little lighter too.
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To me it’s even more impressive that the GT3 with regular cup 2’s is faster.
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Originally Posted by RobertR1 View Post
Quite a surprise for the 600LT. Also I donít trust any Italian car numbers unless itís a customers car. Misrepresentation is something theyíre just very comfortable with.

If you normalized the tires, the RS and 600LT should be neck and neck. The Cup 2 Rís are well ahead of the field.
I don't trust them either from experience with my own italian cars and driving student cars.

There is a video with a Pro driver (Oliver Webb) taking the Aventador SVJ and GT2RS at Silverstone (and Shmee's Senna). The GT2RS put 2 secs over the Aventador, and supposedly the Aventador lapped the Ring faster.

Then there is the Pista, the guys at Apex Nurburgring (they have a customer Pista, not a press car, and they can drive) have a nice review on that flop: good motor and nothing else.

I took a Gallardo around Palm Beach Intl Raceway, the car was on fresh Michelin Super Sport, I could not break a lap under 1:32, and the car went limp on lap 6. My old 295Hp Cayman S on Bridgestone RE11 lapped in 1:32, and this is a track with a massive back straight. I have dozens of limp mode experiences in multiple cars, but the italians dominate.

My favorite italian exotic car limp mode: exhaust overheated (I thought exhausts were supposed to run hot).
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Originally Posted by Waxer View Post
Yeah, but the 600LT is TT and has a 120 hp advantage and more torque. A little lighter too.
JFC are you tedious.
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That 720 is a monster
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Originally Posted by Gary(SF) View Post
I think the 2 R is considered to be quicker than the Trofeo R, but yeah the big difference is tire size. I understand McLaren keeping the tire sizes smaller in the 570S, it really does increase the fun factor in canyon driving, but come on, the 600LT is the track weapon, it needs to go up a couple of sizes at least.
are you all drifting your cars around corners in canyons? Please advise which roads so I can avoid them.
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I'd consider trading my 570S to the next Sport Series LT model once they up the tire sizes to at least 245/305. 225/285 stock is just too narrow for a $200K+ sports car. But that probably will never happen as McLaren will want to dumb down the performance of the Sport Series cars. So I'm considering modifying the wheel well liners to accommodate 265 front tires.

A 600LT w/ 265/325 on Cup R 2 could be just as fast as a GT2RS, see how the 600LT can almost hang with a 2RS in a straight line.
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Wish they had the car on N2 spec and not N0 spec MPSC2's
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Originally Posted by mdrums View Post
Wish they had the car on N2 spec and not N0 spec MPSC2's
If you are referring to the .2 GT3 RS tires, it was on the latest/fastest R variant of Cup 2 which are N0 rather than the slower ďregularĒ Cup 2 N2 it comes with stock.

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