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Old 04-20-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zmangt3
Based on how many valuation threads are on here there are a lot of porsche gt owners that really cant afford to be here. However because the cars have been holding value the purchase can be justified. As we can see that is changing and there is concern from these buyers so they keep starting value threads.
As of this am there are many many more gt porsches for sale than mclaren Lt cars of course more porsches were produced. The tide is changing fast and these buyers i describe will be jumping ship as there stability leaves
Whether some can or can’t afford a Porsche GT car may or may not be a factor in value threads. I own my RS outright. Resale value is still a factor to me and for most with common sense imho. Whether GT car resale values drop...dunno but for now they are the pick of the litter in the resale department.

I’m sure F Forums and Mac forums all have their value threads too.
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Originally Posted by Gary(SF)
>>Kinda like Mueller. If there was a basis to seek indictment he would have.<<

We're digressing from car talk, which is probably a mistake, but Mueller made it clear he would not attempt to indict a sitting president, and also made it clear he could "not exonerate" Trump. The Mueller Report is an extremely damaging document for Trump.
Your right. While not digressing also let me just point out prosecutors don’t “exonerate”. They submit for indictment where there is sufficient facts and they believe probable cause exists to support an indictment which in most cases is easy to get. Then they prosecute.

The Meuller report is only a “damaging” doc as a talking point for the rabid libs that have been left looking beyond stupid by the entire waste of time, money and resources this witch hunt and dog and pony show they contrived has been. Hope the public is smart enough to see it.

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Originally Posted by Waxer
Your right. While not digressing also let me just point out prosecutors don’t “exonerate”. They submit for indictment where there is sufficient facts and they believe probable cause exists to support an indictment which in most cases is easy to get. Then they prosecute.

The Meuller report is only a “damaging” doc as a talking point for the rabid libs that have been left looking beyond stupid by the entire waste of time, money and resources.
Yes well - the only person who seems kinda rabid here is you - by constantly weaving political jabs into a car discussion forum. Isn't there a whole forum dedicated to politics etc. for rabid people on both the left and right (seemingly that would be you). I'd suggest we leave politics out of this place or it will get ugly fast.
Old 04-21-2019, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rodsky
Yes well - the only person who seems kinda rabid here is you - by constantly weaving political jabs into a car discussion forum. Isn't there a whole forum dedicated to politics etc. for rabid people on both the left and right (seemingly that would be you). I'd suggest we leave politics out of this place or it will get ugly fast.
Guilty as charged.

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Originally Posted by zmangt3
Not sure where you are getting your info from? Also where do you come up with 100k the first year?? Even the 570 which as been mass produced is about 62% after 3 years the same as a Carerra. With 7 to 800 produced (rough numbers) depreciation will be better. Heck I even looked into a lease and they were at a 67% residual for a 3 year lease much better residual than Porsche. I think a lot of people shoot from the hip on depreciation numbers on different brands. I continually run numbers ( I am a numbers geek) on Ferrari, lambo, Porsche and Mac and depending on models they are all pretty close. Of course low production models are much better.

There are 12 for sale nationwide at last check. I was told that production stopped on the coupe already which is short of a year
I lost 85 grand in 1 year and 4 months in the mac 570s
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Originally Posted by n d
I lost 85 grand in 1 year and 4 months in the mac 570s
570s and 720s are greatly over produced. Same thing happens with buying a 911 turbo or any 200k car mass produced

Was yours a highly optioned 570? Msrp? Does the 85k include sales tax. A 2016 is selling for 155 160k which is 85k off msrp after 3 years.

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Originally Posted by zmangt3
570s and 720s are greatly over produced. Same thing happens with buying a 911 turbo or any 200k car mass produced

Was yours a highly optioned 570? Msrp? Does the 85k include sales tax. A 2016 is selling for 155 160k which is 85k off msrp after 3 years.
does not include tax money! 230k


selling and sold two different things!
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Originally Posted by n d
does not include tax money! 230k


selling and sold two different things!
I guess i dont understand..at 230k and a loss of 85k means you sold for 145k? That is lower than a 3 year old 570.
Did you sell or trade it?
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Originally Posted by zmangt3
570s and 720s are greatly over produced. Same thing happens with buying a 911 turbo or any 200k car mass produced
McLaren makes fewer cars per year than Porsche makes GTs. what do you consider mass produced?
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Not trying to hate on McLaren, but just curious.

I am told that McLarens do not sell well in the UK. Is that true?
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Originally Posted by 360MVA
McLaren makes fewer cars per year than Porsche makes GTs. what do you consider mass produced?
For McLaren its mass produced. McLaren doesnt have the customer base like porsche. I guess i meant production is not limited in any way like the LT models.

The porsche gt cars will be falling in line with other cars depreciation wise with their crazy production numbers.

Over 3 years McLaren runs about a 36% depreciation. However a very highly spec car can skew this a bit.

A 230k msrp 570 3 years old is selling for 150 ish. Thats 35% which is pretty normal. Most porsches follow this depreciation with the exception of the gt cars. However the gt cars are changing.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Not trying to hate on McLaren, but just curious.

I am told that McLarens do not sell well in the UK. Is that true?
i think the economics there are completely different than here. With Brexit- it’s playing havoc on their resale values. I have three good buddies in London and one owns a 720 and he was telling me values there are depressed. They sell well but values are lower.
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Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
i think the economics there are completely different than here. With Brexit- it’s playing havoc on their resale values. I have three good buddies in London and one owns a 720 and he was telling me values there are depressed. They sell well but values are lower.
I have heard the same from friends over there
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Originally Posted by zmangt3
I have heard the same from friends over there
hard to know if it’s mclaren depreciation just amplified in the UK or if it’s Brexit.
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Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
hard to know if it’s mclaren depreciation just amplified in the UK or if it’s Brexit.
I kind of don't think it's Brexit.

But my question was really about the popularity of McLarens in the UK, not necessarily resale (though I understand the two are inexorably interrelated).


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