GT2 IS faster
04-10-2019, 12:21 PM
#31
Burning Brakes
- GT2RS is vastly faster on acceleration past 60mph (and so is my 991 Turbo S, 720S, and plenty others by a lot).
- The massive power difference helps a lot on lap times.
- GT3RS is slightly better at braking because of: around 150 lbs less weight (real cars weight, no brochure weight), more downforce, better weight distribution.
- GT3RS is slightly better at all turns, because of weight, downforce, weight distribution.
- Both cars use the same suspension and brake components.
- 99% of the owners here can't get anywhere close to a Pro driver on the same day/car/tires/racetrack, I call close 1 second per minute (or better) on a racetrack.
- At Road Atlanta, the two cars on same driver/tires were only 1.3 seconds apart, despite of three straights were the GT2RS can build the gap (before running out of distilled water).
- At the Nurburgring, for about 4 minutes, the GT2RS only builds 2.7 secs on the GT3RS, despite of the many full throttle sections everywhere at the Ring.
- The GT2RS will produce better lap times (before running out of water) at most tracks.
- I would bet that Mid-Ohio, Roebling Road, Sonoma, Optima Challenge AutoX and Speed-Stops, The Dragon, and anything similar would be places where the GT2RS and GT3RS are too close in performance.
- GT2RS is the King of all 911s, but only a few drivers can truly explore its performance. For the few GT2RS I have had on my track sessions the last 3 months, all I get is an occasional point-by and color-blind attitude towards Blue flags (McLaren and Corvette drivers tend to do the same).
....and because this forum is the "New Marketplace", the GT2RS is depreciating faster than the GT3RS, so I wait patiently to trade my 991TTS for the King of all 911s.
- The massive power difference helps a lot on lap times.
- GT3RS is slightly better at braking because of: around 150 lbs less weight (real cars weight, no brochure weight), more downforce, better weight distribution.
- GT3RS is slightly better at all turns, because of weight, downforce, weight distribution.
- Both cars use the same suspension and brake components.
- 99% of the owners here can't get anywhere close to a Pro driver on the same day/car/tires/racetrack, I call close 1 second per minute (or better) on a racetrack.
- At Road Atlanta, the two cars on same driver/tires were only 1.3 seconds apart, despite of three straights were the GT2RS can build the gap (before running out of distilled water).
- At the Nurburgring, for about 4 minutes, the GT2RS only builds 2.7 secs on the GT3RS, despite of the many full throttle sections everywhere at the Ring.
- The GT2RS will produce better lap times (before running out of water) at most tracks.
- I would bet that Mid-Ohio, Roebling Road, Sonoma, Optima Challenge AutoX and Speed-Stops, The Dragon, and anything similar would be places where the GT2RS and GT3RS are too close in performance.
- GT2RS is the King of all 911s, but only a few drivers can truly explore its performance. For the few GT2RS I have had on my track sessions the last 3 months, all I get is an occasional point-by and color-blind attitude towards Blue flags (McLaren and Corvette drivers tend to do the same).
....and because this forum is the "New Marketplace", the GT2RS is depreciating faster than the GT3RS, so I wait patiently to trade my 991TTS for the King of all 911s.
04-10-2019, 02:22 PM
#32
Nordschleife Master
Please refresh my memory. How many track records does the GT3RS hold now? The GT2RS holds so many now it's hard to keep up with the list, and it's accomplished this impressive record against everything, including hypercars. Here's a little wake up call marker for you. At Laguna Seca, which is not a long, fast track, the GT2RS set a lap time five seconds faster than the GT3RS. Unlike a lot of you guys, I'm not out to denigrate one of the cars, I really like the GT3RS and I respect what it can do with less, but when it comes to the king of the 911's, the GT2RS is it.
But, but....we still have that video.
04-10-2019, 02:24 PM
#33
Nordschleife Master
- GT2RS is vastly faster on acceleration past 60mph (and so is my 991 Turbo S, 720S, and plenty others by a lot).
- The massive power difference helps a lot on lap times.
- GT3RS is slightly better at braking because of: around 150 lbs less weight (real cars weight, no brochure weight), more downforce, better weight distribution.
- GT3RS is slightly better at all turns, because of weight, downforce, weight distribution.
- Both cars use the same suspension and brake components.
- 99% of the owners here can't get anywhere close to a Pro driver on the same day/car/tires/racetrack, I call close 1 second per minute (or better) on a racetrack.
- At Road Atlanta, the two cars on same driver/tires were only 1.3 seconds apart, despite of three straights were the GT2RS can build the gap (before running out of distilled water).
- At the Nurburgring, for about 4 minutes, the GT2RS only builds 2.7 secs on the GT3RS, despite of the many full throttle sections everywhere at the Ring.
- The GT2RS will produce better lap times (before running out of water) at most tracks.
- I would bet that Mid-Ohio, Roebling Road, Sonoma, Optima Challenge AutoX and Speed-Stops, The Dragon, and anything similar would be places where the GT2RS and GT3RS are too close in performance.
- GT2RS is the King of all 911s, but only a few drivers can truly explore its performance. For the few GT2RS I have had on my track sessions the last 3 months, all I get is an occasional point-by and color-blind attitude towards Blue flags (McLaren and Corvette drivers tend to do the same).
....and because this forum is the "New Marketplace", the GT2RS is depreciating faster than the GT3RS, so I wait patiently to trade my 991TTS for the King of all 911s.
- The massive power difference helps a lot on lap times.
- GT3RS is slightly better at braking because of: around 150 lbs less weight (real cars weight, no brochure weight), more downforce, better weight distribution.
- GT3RS is slightly better at all turns, because of weight, downforce, weight distribution.
- Both cars use the same suspension and brake components.
- 99% of the owners here can't get anywhere close to a Pro driver on the same day/car/tires/racetrack, I call close 1 second per minute (or better) on a racetrack.
- At Road Atlanta, the two cars on same driver/tires were only 1.3 seconds apart, despite of three straights were the GT2RS can build the gap (before running out of distilled water).
- At the Nurburgring, for about 4 minutes, the GT2RS only builds 2.7 secs on the GT3RS, despite of the many full throttle sections everywhere at the Ring.
- The GT2RS will produce better lap times (before running out of water) at most tracks.
- I would bet that Mid-Ohio, Roebling Road, Sonoma, Optima Challenge AutoX and Speed-Stops, The Dragon, and anything similar would be places where the GT2RS and GT3RS are too close in performance.
- GT2RS is the King of all 911s, but only a few drivers can truly explore its performance. For the few GT2RS I have had on my track sessions the last 3 months, all I get is an occasional point-by and color-blind attitude towards Blue flags (McLaren and Corvette drivers tend to do the same).
....and because this forum is the "New Marketplace", the GT2RS is depreciating faster than the GT3RS, so I wait patiently to trade my 991TTS for the King of all 911s.
04-10-2019, 02:28 PM
#34
Nordschleife Master
04-10-2019, 02:29 PM
#35
Nordschleife Master
More excuses.
Both seemed like the fastest guys out there...by far.
Maybe i I need an eye exam??? Lol
No doubt the 2RS is the King when it comes to brute power and acceleration. Stipulate to that. But as far as King of the track Evo had a different take despite all the track records you can collect with 700hp. In the real world it seems the 3RS is for many the better track weapon and fully capable of collecting its share of point by’s from 2RSs in Open passing DEs.
When I see the 2RS as an IMSA or FIA homlogation basis for a PAG Motorsport entry then I’ll be interested. Only the 3RS holds that card despite all the “track records” the 3RS holds with its 700 hp which it should be collecting with that amount of twist.
04-10-2019, 02:31 PM
#36
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04-10-2019, 02:43 PM
#37
Nordschleife Master
04-10-2019, 04:18 PM
#38
Rennlist Member
In all seriousness...Waxer, if you are ever out on the west coast, send me a PM and you can drive the 2RS to see that it's not as bad as you think.
04-10-2019, 04:40 PM
#39
Come on, I have a 3RS.2 and would straight up trade in a second for a 2RS....most 3Rs.2 owners would. I think that is the first turbo Porsche I really lust after.
04-10-2019, 04:41 PM
#40
GT3/GT3RS drivers find out that they are in way over their head when stepping up to cars over 600 H.P... Especially when moving to 720s/GT2rs/Pista.
Noting so magical about just smashing the accelerator to 100% every chance one gets. A lot more patience is needed to drive the higher horse power cars and a lot harder to get consistent when modulating a throttle. It'll probably take many, many track days to even adjust to cars like 720s/gt2rs/pista... but once a person does then its lights out.
Noting so magical about just smashing the accelerator to 100% every chance one gets. A lot more patience is needed to drive the higher horse power cars and a lot harder to get consistent when modulating a throttle. It'll probably take many, many track days to even adjust to cars like 720s/gt2rs/pista... but once a person does then its lights out.
04-10-2019, 04:49 PM
#41
I suspect you're right. I was skeptical about the 2RS but became a believer on my first drive. I won't sell my 3RS as the engine is a masterpiece, but as Chris Harris said - the 2RS is one of the most exciting cars of the decade.
04-10-2019, 05:31 PM
#42
Nordschleife Master
I’m an NA guy but I could be converted. 😁
04-10-2019, 05:34 PM
#43
Nordschleife Master
GT3/GT3RS drivers find out that they are in way over their head when stepping up to cars over 600 H.P... Especially when moving to 720s/GT2rs/Pista.
Noting so magical about just smashing the accelerator to 100% every chance one gets. A lot more patience is needed to drive the higher horse power cars and a lot harder to get consistent when modulating a throttle. It'll probably take many, many track days to even adjust to cars like 720s/gt2rs/pista... but once a person does then its lights out.
Noting so magical about just smashing the accelerator to 100% every chance one gets. A lot more patience is needed to drive the higher horse power cars and a lot harder to get consistent when modulating a throttle. It'll probably take many, many track days to even adjust to cars like 720s/gt2rs/pista... but once a person does then its lights out.
04-10-2019, 08:09 PM
#44
After watching that, I have new respect for the accuracy of AssettoCorsa. And I notice a few places where my lines have been wrong!
04-10-2019, 08:33 PM
#45
Racer
Thread Starter
Actually, that's not true. I just passed up an opportunity to upgrade. Yes the GT2 is faster but the GT3 is just a touch more special in my opinion(and think it will be moving forward in a world of turbos). No offense to anyone out there but If I felt like I needed 'the biggest stick' I'd probably go and buy a 720S.