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I track my spec Miata and have not done so in my Touring. However I stay far away from cars and coffees too. I basically go to the country in my Touring and find quiet roads and drive like a bat out of hell. I went to lunch with a friend of mine at place way out called Royers Cafe. He was in an AMG E55. On one empty stretch we were at 155mph or so. Mainly I drive close to the speed limit with the windows down though. What a thrill and exactly what the touring is for - driving but not necessarily tracking although I’m sure its better than 99% of what I see on the track I am a member of despite no wing.
Royer's Cafe is awesome! Haven't been there in many years.
Probably true on the spec. There are a lot of really "nice" Touring builds even if a lot of that money won't be returned. Conversations here always seem to center around "this is the perfect stripper spec, exactly how it should be", but that points the focus more on resale of the car and extracting maximum value. I have a 201k sticker myself on a Touring and I know a lot of people think that's crazy, but when I get into the car I almost always take a second to look around and take in the beauty of the cockpit. It seems to add to my personal enjoyment and sense of occasion for me.
Right on.
After my PEC session, I took my instructor over to see my Touring. I watched him check teh car out; he was absolutely enamored with the seat material saying "wow" several times
Even the small things are special in a Touring, even if the seats don't have a loud stripe on them!
I must have a hole in my tank. Never seen above 350. Ha!
LOL - you're proud of that !
I did a Coast 2 Coast trip after delivery so that's all highway miles
and upon looking at the end of the tank, I never ended up getting within 7% of that,
I've never seen the gauge read higher than 320 miles or so. After a spirited drive it usually says 200 miles on a full tank lol! It changes depending on how you drive.
Right on.
After my PEC session, I took my instructor over to see my Touring. I watched him check teh car out; he was absolutely enamored with the seat material saying "wow" several times Even the small things are special in a Touring, even if the seats don't have a loud stripe on them!
I've been in mine for at least four hours. Sure the LWB got a bit uncomfortable at the tail end of that but overall I wouldn't have changed anything and find it to be plenty comfortable.
The regular 911's are simply boring, garbage cars now. Garbage might be a bit strong of a word but I'm comparing them to what 911s once were.
Put simply, my 993 C4S was something like $80,000 new back in 1996. The same C4S is like $130,000 or so now. Compare that with the Ferrari 355 costing about $120,000 back then vs somewhere around $300k for the mid-engine 8-cyl 488 equivalent. A 50% rise in price on the Porsche after almost 25 years vs a 250% rise in price on the Ferrari.
Basically, Porsche has substantially cheapened their base product over time in comparison to what it once was. I can't explain the disappointment I felt driving my 991.1 C2S and the elation with owning my GT3 Touring. The Touring feels like a modern reincarnation of my 993 while the base 911's feel like a car I'd let my fiance drive to work and leave parked between Sally and Jane's Honda Civic.
The only real 911s are the Motorsport products and for those of us that don't want the gaudy wing ruining the lines of the car and pretending we're in a CUP car for the street, the GT3 touring is where it's at. If you actually drive your GT3 at the track by all means option the wing but if you're driving it to cars and coffee every weekend stop kidding yourself.
What you feel about the cars is your opinion but $80k in 1996 inflation adjusted makes a 993 cost $129,599.81 in today’s dollars. And you get a lot more kit standard in a 991 for the same money. As for driving experience, almost anything from 1996 would feel sporty compared to its counterpart today.
911R is more of a Touring with its more supple suspension and road demeanor! GT3 Touring would have made a better 911R. Porsche got the names mixed up. Nevertheless, both are quite extraordinary.
this is absolutely correct ... 911 R should have been a RS Touring and the GT3 Touring the 911 R with more hardcore ethos
this is absolutely correct ... 911 R should have been a RS Touring and the GT3 Touring the 911 R with more hardcore ethos
Actually, wouldn't the R today just be the RS? Wasn't it Porsche's attempt to build a LW track focused 911? The fact it didn't have a wing was second to it being a lightweight track focused street car?
But i would agree, seems like R is that functional "touring" of the 991 gen. Whatever, all marketing stuff for Porsche to get us frothy about buying more cars.
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