WP0

I purchased a CPO 2016 GT3 RS three weeks ago. During the process, I asked the out of state dealer to give me the PCCB measurements, and they said that they were too difficult to obtain, and confirmed that this was a CPO GT3 RS, and therefore met high standards. So I purchased the vehicle with 6,000 miles on it.

The first chance I can get an appointment with my local dealer to get the PCCB measurement is two weeks and 700 miles after I received the car. The front rotors were measured at my local dealer, and failed the wear limit criteria, and had non-CPO-able chips on the front rotors. The rear rotors barely passed the wear limit criteria. The out of state dealer from which I purchased the vehicle is not very forthcoming with a solution, so I am planning on contacting Porsche NA next week. Has anyone else had a similar experience/problem? What solution was offered?

Thanks!

bogey1

subscribed. I had no idea that much wear was possible in 6,000 miles.... chips I understand. having just bought a cpo RS i am interested!

rosenbergendo

Wow. Super shady. Sounds like dealer knew about worn PCCB and it was your responsibility as the buyer to DEMAND the readings or pass on the car.

bogey1

I'm no lawyer, but it sounds to me like the dealer misrepresented the car. It's either covered by CPO or it isn't. In this case it sounds like the dealer said it was, in writing, and the buyer has now discovered the brakes are not covered. I would park the car, put no more miles on it, report to the BBB, and send an official letter to the dealer. Take the car back, or bring the brakes up to CPO standards as advertised. But thats just me...

signes

BS. Takes 15 minutes to measure each corner with the Proceq tool. Three locations for each disc and you'd have known. Some dealers don't have it and it's not a formal part of the CPO process beyond a visual inspection (which should have caught chips.) This is serious money so I'd press it.

StanfordCardGT3

How could it be at the wear limit at 6k miles? Was it tracked substantially?

tstafford

OP - Sorry to hear that. Feels to me that the selling dealer needs to step up here. There’s no way a CPO car should need any kind of work that totals out to what this will be. Maybe a door ding or some curb rash on a wheel but not this. PCCB while awesome in some regards feel like a liability (my car has them and was purchased used too).

tstafford

No other way. But quite possible if tracked heavily. Also makes me wonder about the hub condition. The rears need to be replaced at 6K miles of track time. If the rotors are shot, seems that there are many track miles on the car. But who knows.

WP0

" Was it tracked substantially?"
Yes, it was tracked substantially, but since it was a CPO, with a warranty until 12/2022, I assume that everything was still in great shape, and as far as I can tell, it is a fantastic machine.

I was told that in order for the CPO process to complete, that all wearables, which should include PCCB rotors have to have at least 50% of life left. These PCCB rotors obviously did not.

I plan on calling Porsche NA next week, and discussing the matter with them, as not only were the PCCB rotors exhausted upon arrival, but I mentioned in another post how 6 of the 7 front trunk (luggage compartment) items were missing. Additionally, the car arrived with the airbag warning light on, which is why I took the vehicle to the local dealer so promptly, and asked them to check the PCCB on a hunch, with so many small items in this CPO vehicle missing.

Dante

Hi, what's the build date of your car?

WP0

"Hi, what's the build date of your car?"

Build date was 9-01-2016 month.
Delivery date was 12-1-2016.

tstafford

I think you want to research the hub maintenance requirements too. They time out at 6K of track miles in the rear and 12K in the front. They are pricey (but not quite as bad as the PCCB).

Dante

Well, my car was built october 2015...same periodo hence; I'm getting some serious issues with my pccb after 17.000 km of 'normal' use of the car with around 10 trackdays and i'm very very cautious...always a couple laps warm-up...no more than 4-5 hot laps then cooling down before doing some (few) other hot laps and ALWAYS cooling down 2 laps before stopping, always OEM pads etc etc. I extimate roughly 1000/1200 km track ...and my disc are worn out.
Would never expect such an early consumption, I know of smb else with same trouble, I know friend with GT3 mk2 and 30.000 km with a lot (and i mean A LOT) of track...with ZERO ISSUES.
I really suspect some specific issue (defective parts), I'm in talks with the manufacturer, will keep updated.

Dante

sry..read by hurry, 1 year later

Dante

anyway... I know there were 3 codes pec for 410mm PCCB disc, maybe just catalogue update...or disc upgrades