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Old 03-09-2019, 04:27 PM
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Default Rear Seats in my Touring... Yes, it is doable.

Hi Guys,

i wanted to share some amazing info with you all and I am debating pulling the trigger as we speak.

There is a company in Germany that fits the rear seats back into the Touring (can also do isofix) and is safety tested and approved in Germany. Info to follow shortly.

It takes a maximum of 5 days to do the work.

stay tuned

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Please document the conversion.
that is the only reason I haven't upgraded from my 997 gt3.
fellow 997gt3 owner with rear seats
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I am also interested. It’s the only thing I don’t like about the GT3.
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ANYTHING IS DOABLE.
you can add child seat in the trunk too. and no, I am not joking, I had that... and CHP was not amused at all

but let say you added that
and god forbid you have an accident, you may not have ins coverage, especially if the accident is major or fatal. lots of finger pointing.... (this is USA , ROW may differ)
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Originally Posted by mooty
ANYTHING IS DOABLE.
you can add child seat in the trunk too. and no, I am not joking, I had that... and CHP was not amused at all

but let say you added that
and god forbid you have an accident, you may not have ins coverage, especially if the accident is major or fatal. lots of finger pointing.... (this is USA , ROW may differ)
EU even worst unless you re-homologate the whole xar for 4 seats
eventhough the equipments itself are homolofated you will require new car homologation with these homologated pieces

otherwise goodbye insurance with all the consequences

nevertheless the are safer places for children than a 911
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I had 2 teenagers in the back of my 991.2 GT3 yesterday for a short trip, but don't tell anyone
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There is a leather to sample set of 991 seats, 18 way front and rear seats on eBay. They are out of a cab so the rear might be different, I don’t know, but if someone is looking for parts ....
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Originally Posted by Chris88
I had 2 teenagers in the back of my 991.2 GT3 yesterday for a short trip, but don't tell anyone
I had a e36/8, the original mz3 couple.
only two seats.
wife and I sit front, I would drive with three ppl, sister (she was 25 at the time) in the hatch no seat no belt... yes insanity runs in our family, 40 miles to get Chinese desserts.
needless to say I was WAY over the speed limit.
now I am slightly smarter and no longer put her in the trunk.
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Originally Posted by mooty
ANYTHING IS DOABLE.
you can add child seat in the trunk too. and no, I am not joking, I had that... and CHP was not amused at all

but let say you added that
and god forbid you have an accident, you may not have ins coverage, especially if the accident is major or fatal. lots of finger pointing.... (this is USA , ROW may differ)
My insurance provider in the UK has already confirmed the work is covered and issued me a letter as the company has passed TUI or TUV (can’t remember which) Germany safety standards.
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There's a fella on pff.de that got the parts machined. That paved the way for rear seatbelts. https://www.pff.de/index.php?thread/...ng/&pageNo=562


https://www.pff.de/wcf/index.php?att...g/&thumbnail=1

No LATCH as that apparently would imply soldering.

My biggest issue regarding the rear seats and kids safety is the lack of side airbags and proper neck protection. Neither would be any different with this solution.

Eventually the rear seats will be abandoned, IMO, for the reason above. For now, I carry my kids in the back of my cab without issues. I hope the OP is successful here in the US. Keep us posted!
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Other than from a homologation standpoint as long as you don’t have US LWBS I don’t see the problem, Porsche will add the option eventually ...
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Originally Posted by BrntRubber

My insurance provider in the UK has already confirmed the work is covered and issued me a letter as the company has passed TUI or TUV (can’t remember which) Germany safety standards.
happy it worked out for you in the UK, but I don’t see an American Insurance company covering this.

Way too many ambulance chasing lawyers in US.

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^ thats my point
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If you aren't in the USA and don't need the LATCH connectors (for child seats which use them) then yes it's possible. (as anything is possible with enough time/money)

I'm curious to see how it would affect resale. Positive, neutral, or negative? Modifications to P-cars are generally always unfavorably viewed. Normally the best option is to always return things to stock before selling, but it might be hard in this case.
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Originally Posted by Tangerine
If you aren't in the USA and don't need the LATCH connectors (for child seats which use them) then yes it's possible. (as anything is possible with enough time/money)

I'm curious to see how it would affect resale. Positive, neutral, or negative? Modifications to P-cars are generally always unfavorably viewed. Normally the best option is to always return things to stock before selling, but it might be hard in this case.
By latch connectors I believe you mean Isofix, for child seat connection. This is fitted as part of there work.


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