California lifestyle?
04-17-2019, 08:38 PM
#467
Very true Sam. Living anywhere is a mix of pros and cons. Only you can assign a weight to those things, and provide a final score. Nobody else can do that for you.
Btw, had to renew my driver’s license yesterday. Walked into the DMV. No appointment. Grabbed a number. Paper said 170. Looked up and the next number being served was 169. Within 20 minutes we were in and out, $28 later (good for 5 years). This is a small thing, but life here is pretty much like that in most areas of life.
Btw, had to renew my driver’s license yesterday. Walked into the DMV. No appointment. Grabbed a number. Paper said 170. Looked up and the next number being served was 169. Within 20 minutes we were in and out, $28 later (good for 5 years). This is a small thing, but life here is pretty much like that in most areas of life.
Would honestly like to be in more nature/scenery/outdoors and less traffic/stress, but the weather here is just disgustingly nice & there are such diverse offerings for anyone in any walk of life
Here's a house in my neighborhood for sale (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...33_rect/15_zm/). $2.2m and $47k in property taxes.
To your point on traffic, I'm looking in the woodsy area along C-9, west part... doesn't seem too bad and the roads are twisty
To your point on traffic, I'm looking in the woodsy area along C-9, west part... doesn't seem too bad and the roads are twisty
2.275m here in West LA is a porta potty with detached garage
04-17-2019, 09:40 PM
#468
glass half empty or half full..
IMHO best weather in the world, best roads in the world (outside of cities), best car culture in the world, very diverse spectrum of things to do across the state, amazing scenery/geography, melting pot culturally.... I view it as pay to play, and makes sense why so many want to live here! But also makes sense why people want to get the hell out
IMHO best weather in the world, best roads in the world (outside of cities), best car culture in the world, very diverse spectrum of things to do across the state, amazing scenery/geography, melting pot culturally.... I view it as pay to play, and makes sense why so many want to live here! But also makes sense why people want to get the hell out
lol I love LA and I'm enjoying it here but don't tempt me as I have Oregon and/or CO in my sights (maybe in 5-10 years)
Would honestly like to be in more nature/scenery/outdoors and less traffic/stress, but the weather here is just disgustingly nice & there are such diverse offerings for anyone in any walk of life
*sniff* that is beautiful for 2.275m
2.275m here in West LA is a porta potty with detached garage
Would honestly like to be in more nature/scenery/outdoors and less traffic/stress, but the weather here is just disgustingly nice & there are such diverse offerings for anyone in any walk of life
*sniff* that is beautiful for 2.275m
2.275m here in West LA is a porta potty with detached garage
04-17-2019, 09:42 PM
#469
Race Director
Well Portland was great 20 years ago when I moved up here from the bay area. Now it's nearly as disgusting as SFO. I went through tent hell this morning taking my wife to the airport. I'm embarassed to call this area my home now even though I never go to Portland anymore.The politics mirror CA and WA. Now I'm looking at ID, mainly the Boise area as it has a lot to offer. I could live in the Bend area of OR. however. Plenty of outdoor activities out there, just as beautiful but with better weather.
04-17-2019, 10:44 PM
#470
The point is that to be fair when comparing property taxes one must pay in two different locations (not just the simplistic comparison of property tax rates), one must compare similar homes in both locations . Agreed?
04-17-2019, 11:13 PM
#471
Realistically, most people look at what they can afford and then go shopping so that’s the basis of comparison I.e. what would a $2m home cost in different places in this example
04-18-2019, 12:02 AM
#472
it’s not how people realistically search and buy houses when moving to different regions. I would have a much different expectation on what I would live in if I were looking in NYC vs Bay Area vs Texas.
Realistically, most people look at what they can afford and then go shopping so that’s the basis of comparison I.e. what would a $2m home cost in different places in this example
Realistically, most people look at what they can afford and then go shopping so that’s the basis of comparison I.e. what would a $2m home cost in different places in this example
This has become quite an entertaining thread, but lets try to keep the "California vs other states" discussion as objective as possible.
04-18-2019, 01:17 AM
#473
Race Director
If we are going to complain about Texas property taxes on a 7,800 SF house and yet downwardly adjust our housing expectations for a more expensive locale (Bay Area), thus achieving a lower property tax payment, that hardly seems a logical or fair comparison of annual property tax costs.
This has become quite an entertaining thread, but lets try to keep the "California vs other states" discussion as objective as possible.
This has become quite an entertaining thread, but lets try to keep the "California vs other states" discussion as objective as possible.
Let’s say your budget is $2 million. Property taxes in Texas would probably be $50k per year. California would be around $25k. Income taxes in Texas would be zero. In California you would easily spend an extra $25k on income taxes. But, and this is a big but...when are you planning on retiring? Because if your taxable income drops way down in retirement the lower property taxes / higher state income taxes makes a lot of sense. You can also move to Texas or Florida, bank a lot of income tax savings, buy a modest house, then pivot to a higher income tax state when you retire.
A lot of ways to play it.
04-18-2019, 02:29 AM
#474
Thanks. It's going to take awhile, RE roots are deep here in the People's Republic of Oregon.
Meanwhile back in California they're going to ban little hotel shampoos, but apparently it's ok to crap on the sidewalk lol:
California contemplating banning small hotel shampoos, lotions etc.
Meanwhile back in California they're going to ban little hotel shampoos, but apparently it's ok to crap on the sidewalk lol:
California contemplating banning small hotel shampoos, lotions etc.
04-18-2019, 04:15 AM
#475
Three Wheelin'
That's because there are currently no 7,800+SF homes for sale in Saratoga. The closest I can find in the surrounding area under $8m is this listing asking $4.88m. The taxes on that home are $58,656.
Look at it this way, you will pay about the same each year in property taxes for either the Frisco or Saratoga home of similar size/year/quality. Would you rather have $2.27m or $4.88m tied up while you live in it?
Look at it this way, you will pay about the same each year in property taxes for either the Frisco or Saratoga home of similar size/year/quality. Would you rather have $2.27m or $4.88m tied up while you live in it?
04-18-2019, 10:04 AM
#476
Rennlist Member
lol I love LA and I'm enjoying it here but don't tempt me as I have Oregon and/or CO in my sights (maybe in 5-10 years)
Would honestly like to be in more nature/scenery/outdoors and less traffic/stress, but the weather here is just disgustingly nice & there are such diverse offerings for anyone in any walk of life
*sniff* that is beautiful for 2.275m
2.275m here in West LA is a porta potty with detached garage
Would honestly like to be in more nature/scenery/outdoors and less traffic/stress, but the weather here is just disgustingly nice & there are such diverse offerings for anyone in any walk of life
*sniff* that is beautiful for 2.275m
2.275m here in West LA is a porta potty with detached garage
04-18-2019, 10:19 AM
#477
Burning Brakes
I lived in LA for a few years. Nice weather and nice roads. Very slim on actual racetracks, Cal Speedway or whatever NASCAR calls it this day is not the best example of a nice racetrack, and Buttomwillow is meh. The good stuff is up North: Sonoma, Thunderhill and Laguna Seca.
I love Colorado, I have worked there many times, even better roads than California, more fun, much better drivers, I'm planning to open an office there and run it 9 months a year. I would not like Colorado converting into the 2nd California due to Californians running away from their own creation.
I always recommend people to move to California on two conditions: they are either very poor or very rich, and they don't have jobs. It is the perfect place to live if you don't have a job, lots of social programs for jobless people.
I love Colorado, I have worked there many times, even better roads than California, more fun, much better drivers, I'm planning to open an office there and run it 9 months a year. I would not like Colorado converting into the 2nd California due to Californians running away from their own creation.
I always recommend people to move to California on two conditions: they are either very poor or very rich, and they don't have jobs. It is the perfect place to live if you don't have a job, lots of social programs for jobless people.
04-18-2019, 10:31 AM
#478
Rennlist Member
04-18-2019, 11:01 AM
#479
Race Director
I love Colorado, I have worked there many times, even better roads than California, more fun, much better drivers, I'm planning to open an office there and run it 9 months a year. I would not like Colorado converting into the 2nd California due to Californians running away from their own creation.
04-18-2019, 12:52 PM
#480
This thread does have legs lol.
Let’s say your budget is $2 million. Property taxes in Texas would probably be $50k per year. California would be around $25k. Income taxes in Texas would be zero. In California you would easily spend an extra $25k on income taxes. But, and this is a big but...when are you planning on retiring? Because if your taxable income drops way down in retirement the lower property taxes / higher state income taxes makes a lot of sense. You can also move to Texas or Florida, bank a lot of income tax savings, buy a modest house, then pivot to a higher income tax state when you retire.
A lot of ways to play it.
Let’s say your budget is $2 million. Property taxes in Texas would probably be $50k per year. California would be around $25k. Income taxes in Texas would be zero. In California you would easily spend an extra $25k on income taxes. But, and this is a big but...when are you planning on retiring? Because if your taxable income drops way down in retirement the lower property taxes / higher state income taxes makes a lot of sense. You can also move to Texas or Florida, bank a lot of income tax savings, buy a modest house, then pivot to a higher income tax state when you retire.
A lot of ways to play it.