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Old 03-08-2019, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by phefner View Post
This thread is timely. Currently in Chicago and looking to make a move. Any thoughts on New Mexico?
OK, for you and everyone thinking about moving, here's where people in your area are relocating to (at least up to 2016).
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:37 PM
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I am in LA for the weather, the beach, the culture and the beautiful women. If I did not live by the beach, I would not live in California. Like others have said, it is markedly hotter the further inland you go. If I am going to live in heat and in the desert, why live in California and pay crazy taxes? If I wanted desert living, I would choose Las Vegas (no state income tax) or Scottsdale, AZ. And yes, the traffic is soul-sucking. Having lived in MD, TX, MO, KS, MA, and RI prior to California, I can say unequivocally that LA has far and away the worst drivers in the nation. Distracted drivers...angry drivers...pot smoking drivers...texting drivers...some drivers do all of the above all at once. You take your life into your own hands every time you get on the road in LA, no matter the hour. Unlike most everywhere else in the world, in LA you truly have to think twice before leaving your house. You have to plan ahead. You don't just jump in the car at any hour and do some random activity. If you do, prepare to be stuck in traffic. Unless I am going to the nearby grocery store, I always factor in the day and the time of day before venturing out. One of the prices we pay in So Cal for sunny and 72 degrees.

Prior to LA, I practiced medicine in Santa Barbara for three years. That is a truly magical place. The saying is that SB is for "the newlywed and the nearly dead." SB might be the perfect spot for you. Less traffic than LA, SD or SF, it is a gorgeous beach community with the backdrop of the magnificent Santa Ynez mountains, it has great culture for a city of 90,000 people (the same population as Santa Monica). Great restaurants, nice art museum, they have a symphony, fantastic wine bars everywhere you look.... So, why did I leave and head to LA? Because I was 35, single and I decided to open my own practice in Beverly Hills. That being said, I plan on buying a home up there someday and I would love to retire there - I'll become one of the "nearly" (and eventually completely) dead. SB also has easy access to gorgeous mountain and coastal drives and great golf for a small town (much better offerings than LA).

If I were in your shoes, I would jump in your 911, put "Santa Barbara, CA" in your GPS and never look back. You will be glad you did.
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:40 PM
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I relocated from Central New Jersey to Southern California about 8 years ago now. I don't regret the decision at all, but I will agree with what everyone above said.

I live in the Irvine area (close to where the 5 and 405 freeways meet, which is *I think* southern Orange County?). I had some family here which made the move a little easier and I had a job waiting for me. Weather is great of course...so great that you probably look forward to a little rain here and there for some change in scenery. Depending on where you are, I can go to the beach and then go snowboarding in one day.

Taxes are higher and home values (on average) are much higher. I could be living in a giant house in NJ with multiple garages but I'm stuck in a townhouse with no real driveway/backyard for like a million bucks haha. But hey, in the end it is what makes you happy. I don't think I could go back to NJ, but I wouldn't be opposed to living somewhere else when I retire (somewhere cheaper).

I also have no kids (yet) so there's a lot of freedom for activities. Everything you can think of is within an hour's drive. I tracked my car in NJ a lot, but since I've moved here other priorities have taken over so I haven't experienced any tracks in CA.
Live in a detached motorcourt condo, huh? Irvine has a lot of those. haha
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:46 PM
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Ridiculous housing prices, sky high taxes, crazy utility costs, car registration fees that make the eyes water, loony politics, earthquakes, wildfires, floods, mudslides, and a biblical drought that will only get worse over time as the last of the groundwater is depleted. Stay away. Youíll hate it here.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
Ridiculous housing prices, sky high taxes, crazy utility costs, car registration fees that make the eyes water, loony politics, earthquakes, wildfires, floods, mudslides, and a biblical drought that will only get worse over time as the last of the groundwater is depleted. Stay away. You’ll hate it here.
...or to use another one of your lines, Archimedes, - he'd be nucking futs to come here...just like the rest of us...
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:06 AM
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I Grew up in OC and now live in LA.

It sounds like you aren't relocating for a job and in this case, daily freeway travel to and from work doesn't apply to you. The comments on housing prices, taxes, etc...are all true. There's big sticker shock there. Having said that, the weather allows you to participate in activities you love year round.

If you and your wife enjoy doing car activities and love spending time with each other, there aren't too many places in the world that would beat CA.

My suggestion is that you have your RS sent out to San Diego, get in the car and drive up the coast on a 10 day driving trip all the way up to SF. We will all gladly chime in on where you should stay, what cities to check out along the way and where to eat etc...

By the end of that trip, you will have your answer. My parents did that back in the late 70's when relocating from the east coast. We stopped for lunch in Newport Beach on a drive up the coast, and my dad just said "this is it" and we ended up settling down there.

Good luck!!
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:08 AM
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I grew up in Santa Monica IMO its the best city in LA...you have Venice beach, Malibu, Hollywood, Westwood, Beverly hills any many other nice cities near by. If you looking to purchase or rent a home try to get a place north of Montana between the beach and 26th street. Brentwood is also a nice place
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:13 AM
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Only 3 reasons keep me here in this godforsaken state:

1). Sonoma raceway
2). Thunderhill Raceway
3). Laguna Seca raceway

If not for these 3, I'd leave this crummy state
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by robmypro View Post
I lived in Orange County for 30 years. The weather is possibly the best in the world. Lots of beautiful women from all over the world. Great food scene. Car scene is amongst the best in the states. Beaches are cool.

Having said all of that we left 10 years ago for Colorado and donít miss it at all. Why? Soul crushing traffic. Astronomical cost of living. Politics are left of Hugo Chavez.

But really, it is the traffic. You canít realiy enjoy going anywhere because the freeways are crowdwd at 2am. Parking is brutal. You end up staying home a lot because going anywhere is too much work. Cost of living is very very high, but that isnít why we left.

California 40 years ago was awesome. It is nothing like that today, unfortunately. We saw her best years, but those days are over. The weather only takes you so far. But you will love it for a while until the above issues are too much to deal with.

Good luck!
I haven't lived in CA, but have probably spent 2+ years there 4-8 days at a time for business trips over the last 25+ years - working as a remote rep for Silicon Valley giants. The above is the reason I have never taken the "bait" and moved out there to "advance my career"... There is no parking anywhere - except during daylight hours on the 101...
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Derek RS
I grew up in Santa Monica IMO its the best city in LA...you have Venice beach, Malibu, Hollywood, Westwood, Beverly hills any many other nice cities near by. If you looking to purchase or rent a home try to get a place north of Montana between the beach and 26th street. Brentwood is also a nice place
This man knows. - This area is best of the best. Next door to best in food, shopping and culture with a small town feel. Local traffic only. LAX not too far. If OP doesn't need to commute to work, traffic is a no issue. One could spend most of the time West of the 405 with little to worry about traffic. I have friends on the West side that work on the West side and have 5/10 min commute. Not my case unfortunately, but the beach is the beach.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:25 AM
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Santa Monica is awesome. I totally agree. It's about as good as it gets in LA. Great food, the beach, gorgeous women everywhere, it is very walkable. But....the traffic in and out of SM is a nightmare. If you do not have to leave the SM bubble, yes, it is heaven on earth. If you commute east of the 405, you are in for a hellish drive to and from work but at the end of the day, for me (when I lived there) it was totally worth it.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16 View Post
Santa Monica is awesome. I totally agree. It's about as good as it gets in LA. Great food, the beach, gorgeous women everywhere, it is very walkable. But....the traffic in and out of SM is a nightmare. If you do not have to leave the SM bubble, yes, it is heaven on earth. If you commute east of the 405, you are in for a hellish drive to and from work but at the end of the day, for me (when I lived there) it was totally worth it.
Nothing worse than that traffic around West LA on the 405/10 area. The 405 sucks ***** as does the 5, 91, and 101. haha
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Old 03-09-2019, 02:21 AM
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Yes, much ball sucking in West LA. On occasion, it has taken me upwards of 90 minutes to go 10 miles, from Beverly Hills to Playa Del Rey. That is rare, but it happens. Usually, it is a solid 45 minutes from BH to PDR after 4:30 but if there is a jumper on the 101, a fire on the 405, a 10 car pile-up on the 10, whatever, all bets are off. Good thing I find myself sitting within the confines of a 911....
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16 View Post
Yes, much ball sucking in West LA. On occasion, it has taken me upwards of 90 minutes to go 10 miles, from Beverly Hills to Playa Del Rey. That is rare, but it happens. Usually, it is a solid 45 minutes from BH to PDR after 4:30 but if there is a jumper on the 101, a fire on the 405, a 10 car pile-up on the 10, whatever, all bets are off. Good thing I find myself sitting within the confines of a 911....
I guess I donít consider the traffic part of living in LA, especially the West side, since I have no reason to leave the area and only drive at off hours (which is honestly not that bad). Iím actually moving from Venice to PDR next month 👍 My wife and I really love the coastal neighborhood vibe of PDR but itís slightly removed from everything being on the other side of the marina and seems to stay much quieter then MDR and Venice.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16 View Post
Yes, much ball sucking in West LA. On occasion, it has taken me upwards of 90 minutes to go 10 miles, from Beverly Hills to Playa Del Rey. That is rare, but it happens. Usually, it is a solid 45 minutes from BH to PDR after 4:30 but if there is a jumper on the 101, a fire on the 405, a 10 car pile-up on the 10, whatever, all bets are off. Good thing I find myself sitting within the confines of a 911....
One time i got stuck trying to leave SF. It took us one hour to go one block.

Hey, i donít blame anyone for living anywhere. We all get to decide where to live, and the reasons can be complicated. If you lived in Cleveland your entire life, Southern California is going to look pretty amazing to you. Sun! And trust me, in 1980 it was. In any case OP, good luck. I think everyone should live in California at least once, just to experience it. Heck, you might love it. I know i did once.
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