JCR // Titanium Valved Race Pipe (New Product & Intro Offer!)
04-29-2019, 05:47 PM
#138
Nice. Vids?
04-30-2019, 09:37 AM
#140
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SOUL valve controller allows you to lock valves open or closed but doesn't allow you to run factory variable valve setting, correct?
Re: videos, I know system sounds glorious open. I'm mainly interested in more internal/external vids running with valves closed to get a sense of whether the system is livable on a daily basis.
Re: videos, I know system sounds glorious open. I'm mainly interested in more internal/external vids running with valves closed to get a sense of whether the system is livable on a daily basis.
04-30-2019, 11:34 AM
#141
I still haven't heard it. I'll see if I can get the shop to post one as I don't know how to do so.
you should have had them fire it up for you. will keep you posted on pickup - it's supposed to rain like crazy tonight, but I might try to get there. looks like a clear forecast for this weekend, so maybe we could meet up for a drive. would be good for you to post your impressions as an unbiased observer.
correct on the SOUL controller - there's no third setting for just factory control, unfortunately. on the plus side, you can program your homelink buttons to operate the valve open/closed.
SOUL valve controller allows you to lock valves open or closed but doesn't allow you to run factory variable valve setting, correct?
Re: videos, I know system sounds glorious open. I'm mainly interested in more internal/external vids running with valves closed to get a sense of whether the system is livable on a daily basis.
Re: videos, I know system sounds glorious open. I'm mainly interested in more internal/external vids running with valves closed to get a sense of whether the system is livable on a daily basis.
05-02-2019, 01:16 AM
#144
first drive with the new exhaust tonight. some initial impressions:
- at WOT and high RPM's, it's intense. I'm guessing you could hear it for miles. in a word, it's glorious
- the crisp cracking sound the exhaust makes on upshifts under throttle are significantly more pronounced. extremely addicting
- it's unquestionably louder than stock, but shockingly livable. I would say that highway drone is extremely tolerable (the stock exhaust has some drone to my ears, and this has only marginally more when accelerating). it's only there when you're accelerating and only ever so slight, and there's no drone when you're just maintaining speed.
- although there's almost no drone when cruising, when accelerating from a stop, there is still that little bit of boominess that reminds you that you have an aftermarket exhaust. not a good or bad thing, but it's there (like every other aftermarket exhaust setup I've ever had across all car platforms - of which I've had many)
- there's less of a difference between the valves being open and closed than I had anticipated. good news is that if you're delicate with the throttle, you can putter around quiet neighborhoods without wreaking havoc whether they're open or closed. and on the highway with the valves open, there's still no drone.
- at WOT and high RPM's, it's intense. I'm guessing you could hear it for miles. in a word, it's glorious
- the crisp cracking sound the exhaust makes on upshifts under throttle are significantly more pronounced. extremely addicting
- it's unquestionably louder than stock, but shockingly livable. I would say that highway drone is extremely tolerable (the stock exhaust has some drone to my ears, and this has only marginally more when accelerating). it's only there when you're accelerating and only ever so slight, and there's no drone when you're just maintaining speed.
- although there's almost no drone when cruising, when accelerating from a stop, there is still that little bit of boominess that reminds you that you have an aftermarket exhaust. not a good or bad thing, but it's there (like every other aftermarket exhaust setup I've ever had across all car platforms - of which I've had many)
- there's less of a difference between the valves being open and closed than I had anticipated. good news is that if you're delicate with the throttle, you can putter around quiet neighborhoods without wreaking havoc whether they're open or closed. and on the highway with the valves open, there's still no drone.
Last edited by Brosef; 05-02-2019 at 11:23 AM.
05-02-2019, 10:22 AM
#145
I was there when Brosef picked up his car and he was kind enough to go for a drive on surface streets and a short run on the highway.
I'll echo all of his comments. The "spit" sound on upshifts is spectacular and the volume in the car isn't all that loud surprisingly. However, after he left I was at the shop that did the work speaking outside with the guy that did the install and we could hear the car revving several distinct times, and I suspect the car was a quarter mile away the first time, and maybe a half mile away the second time (as the crow flies). My buddy and I just looked at each other wide eyed and started laughing!!! So while it may be just fine inside the car, outside is a whole different story.
One of the big draws of any of JCR's race pipes is the RSR sound, but I don't think you get that until the car gets to higher engine loads. Start rolling into 5 or 6k RPM and it'll start to come out, but down low don't expect a lower note facsimile of the RSR.
The valving is VERY subtle on the road as Brosef indicated. I'm not sure it's worth the price over the silenced pipe, which is the version I'm considering. We had a somewhat difficult time discerning the two states but perhaps our unfamiliarity with the differences had something to do with that.
My thanks to JCR for developing this line of products for this platform, and to Brosef for graciously offering to meet up. We had a fun hour driving around!
I'll echo all of his comments. The "spit" sound on upshifts is spectacular and the volume in the car isn't all that loud surprisingly. However, after he left I was at the shop that did the work speaking outside with the guy that did the install and we could hear the car revving several distinct times, and I suspect the car was a quarter mile away the first time, and maybe a half mile away the second time (as the crow flies). My buddy and I just looked at each other wide eyed and started laughing!!! So while it may be just fine inside the car, outside is a whole different story.
One of the big draws of any of JCR's race pipes is the RSR sound, but I don't think you get that until the car gets to higher engine loads. Start rolling into 5 or 6k RPM and it'll start to come out, but down low don't expect a lower note facsimile of the RSR.
The valving is VERY subtle on the road as Brosef indicated. I'm not sure it's worth the price over the silenced pipe, which is the version I'm considering. We had a somewhat difficult time discerning the two states but perhaps our unfamiliarity with the differences had something to do with that.
My thanks to JCR for developing this line of products for this platform, and to Brosef for graciously offering to meet up. We had a fun hour driving around!
05-02-2019, 01:18 PM
#147
I may have been the first silenced race pipe delivered. I suggested the idea to JCR and he complied with my request to make one. It might have taken a month or so from inquiry to delivery but that was only because it had to be designed and tested. Once it was completed, I had it in a day or two. I am totally satisfied with it and the fact it basically loses no HP and gains 10 plus on the top end only makes it better. The sound alone is worth it.
05-02-2019, 01:41 PM
#148
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first drive with the new exhaust tonight. some initial impressions:
- at WOT and high RPM's, it's intense. I'm guessing you could hear it for miles. in a word, it's glorious
- the crisp cracking sound the exhaust makes on upshifts under throttle are significantly more pronounced. extremely addicting
- it's unquestionably louder than stock, but shockingly livable. I would say that highway drone is extremely tolerable (the stock exhaust has some drone to my ears, and this has only marginally more when accelerating). it's only there when you're accelerating and only ever so slight, and there's no drone when you're just maintaining speed.
- although there's almost no drone when cruising, when accelerating from a stop, there is still that little bit of boominess that reminds you that you have an aftermarket exhaust. not a good or bad thing, but it's there (like every other aftermarket exhaust setup I've ever had across all car platforms - of which I've had many)
- there's less of a difference between the valves being open and closed than I had anticipated. good news is that if you're delicate with the throttle, you can putter around quiet neighborhoods without wreaking havoc whether they're open or closed. and on the highway with the valves open, there's still no drone.
- at WOT and high RPM's, it's intense. I'm guessing you could hear it for miles. in a word, it's glorious
- the crisp cracking sound the exhaust makes on upshifts under throttle are significantly more pronounced. extremely addicting
- it's unquestionably louder than stock, but shockingly livable. I would say that highway drone is extremely tolerable (the stock exhaust has some drone to my ears, and this has only marginally more when accelerating). it's only there when you're accelerating and only ever so slight, and there's no drone when you're just maintaining speed.
- although there's almost no drone when cruising, when accelerating from a stop, there is still that little bit of boominess that reminds you that you have an aftermarket exhaust. not a good or bad thing, but it's there (like every other aftermarket exhaust setup I've ever had across all car platforms - of which I've had many)
- there's less of a difference between the valves being open and closed than I had anticipated. good news is that if you're delicate with the throttle, you can putter around quiet neighborhoods without wreaking havoc whether they're open or closed. and on the highway with the valves open, there's still no drone.
Mine should arrive any day now.....super excited.
Not sure if I will hook up the valve controller (tied to garage door opener) or just the stock/OEM valve controller though.
I can go either way...
05-02-2019, 02:05 PM
#149
I was there when Brosef picked up his car and he was kind enough to go for a drive on surface streets and a short run on the highway.
I'll echo all of his comments. The "spit" sound on upshifts is spectacular and the volume in the car isn't all that loud surprisingly. However, after he left I was at the shop that did the work speaking outside with the guy that did the install and we could hear the car revving several distinct times, and I suspect the car was a quarter mile away the first time, and maybe a half mile away the second time (as the crow flies). My buddy and I just looked at each other wide eyed and started laughing!!! So while it may be just fine inside the car, outside is a whole different story.
One of the big draws of any of JCR's race pipes is the RSR sound, but I don't think you get that until the car gets to higher engine loads. Start rolling into 5 or 6k RPM and it'll start to come out, but down low don't expect a lower note facsimile of the RSR.
The valving is VERY subtle on the road as Brosef indicated. I'm not sure it's worth the price over the silenced pipe, which is the version I'm considering. We had a somewhat difficult time discerning the two states but perhaps our unfamiliarity with the differences had something to do with that.
My thanks to JCR for developing this line of products for this platform, and to Brosef for graciously offering to meet up. We had a fun hour driving around!
I'll echo all of his comments. The "spit" sound on upshifts is spectacular and the volume in the car isn't all that loud surprisingly. However, after he left I was at the shop that did the work speaking outside with the guy that did the install and we could hear the car revving several distinct times, and I suspect the car was a quarter mile away the first time, and maybe a half mile away the second time (as the crow flies). My buddy and I just looked at each other wide eyed and started laughing!!! So while it may be just fine inside the car, outside is a whole different story.
One of the big draws of any of JCR's race pipes is the RSR sound, but I don't think you get that until the car gets to higher engine loads. Start rolling into 5 or 6k RPM and it'll start to come out, but down low don't expect a lower note facsimile of the RSR.
The valving is VERY subtle on the road as Brosef indicated. I'm not sure it's worth the price over the silenced pipe, which is the version I'm considering. We had a somewhat difficult time discerning the two states but perhaps our unfamiliarity with the differences had something to do with that.
My thanks to JCR for developing this line of products for this platform, and to Brosef for graciously offering to meet up. We had a fun hour driving around!
did you get the JCR tips? they look awesome in person and are totally worth the upgrade. They stick out past the bumper just enough that you can see them on the backup camera, which is kind of cool.
05-02-2019, 02:41 PM
#150
Three Wheelin'
My valveless race pipe arrives tomorrow. I'll be installing it next week and then write a review for everyone. As you all know I've been a huge fan of IPE exhausts, I'm excited to give JCR a try now. If weather permits, I'll have videos and a full written review for you guys by the end of next week. I'm hoping to get a dyno done sometime soon also.