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96redLT4 02-09-2019 03:53 PM

Have any GT owners paid up to take the Ferrari Pilota course?
 
Curious if there is anything amazing about these 2 d courses that START at $15.3K and go to $27K to justify the price? I bet the class sizes are small, but you could sure do a lot of good Porsche DEs for the cost of one of these.

J

tstafford 02-09-2019 03:58 PM

Can't wait to hear the responses on this one. I hadn't even heard of the Ferrari driving school. One difference I notice is that it's in Italy instead of Alabama. Not that I don't love Alabama and all but . . .

shapiroeric 02-09-2019 04:07 PM

I'm fairly certain the people taking the course don't bat an eye at the price.....

ExMB 02-09-2019 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by 96redLT4 (Post 15627189)
Curious if there is anything amazing about these 2 d courses that START at $15.3K and go to $27K to justify the price? I bet the class sizes are small, but you could sure do a lot of good Porsche DEs for the cost of one of these.

J

You must've included flight costs because the Euro - $ exchange isn't that high; even when including VAT

soulsea 02-09-2019 04:12 PM

I have been told that with Ferrari this kind of thing is noted when they are handing out limited track car edition allocations of their cars.

-eztrader- 02-09-2019 04:28 PM

I did the basic Ferrari course around 10 years ago- up at Mont-Tremblant. Drove all the variations of cars on different courses - track / wet skidpad / etc.

It included nice accommodations and was fun - but no real urgency to go back.

Guest89 02-09-2019 04:55 PM

Have a buddy who did it; he enjoyed himself. Has moved on from Porsche to Ferrari.

96redLT4 02-09-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by tstafford (Post 15627197)
Can't wait to hear the responses on this one. I hadn't even heard of the Ferrari driving school. One difference I notice is that it's in Italy instead of Alabama. Not that I don't love Alabama and all but . . .

Actually it looks like mostly east and west coast venues:

https://www.ferrariofnewportbeach.co...g-courses.html

J

SToronto 02-09-2019 08:46 PM

AMG has some super expensive driving academy as well, geared towards developing race skills.

Edit - I tried to find the link. Read about it in the last year. Not referring to the one that is like Porsche Driving Experience.

soulsea 02-09-2019 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by SToronto (Post 15627752)
AMG has some super expensive driving academy as well, geared towards developing race skills.

Edit - I tried to find the link. Read about it in the last year. Not referring to the one that is like Porsche Driving Experience.

AMG has the Driving Academy which the exact same thing as the Porsche Track experience, except that it's less expensive and uses different tracks around the country as opposed to just one. If you go through the different levels they both result in SCCA certification. (which I did through AMG last year)

What you may be talking about is the AMG Race Camp which started last year: https://www.mercedes-amg.com/driving...er_English.pdf

This is similar to Porsche's Level 1 Racing Experience: https://www.porsche.com/specials/en/...ience/level-1/

Again it is less expensive, but my understanding is that the AMG one isn't as focused on preparing owners for a racing series, it's more of a bucket list thing to drive real GT4 and GT3 cars in anger.

SToronto 02-09-2019 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by soulsea
AMG has the Driving Academy which the exact same thing as the Porsche Track experience, except that it's less expensive and uses different tracks around the country as opposed to just one. If you go through the different levels they both result in SCCA certification. (which I did through AMG last year)

What you may be talking about is AMG Race Camp which they started last year: https://www.mercedes-amg.com/driving...er_English.pdf

This is similar to Porsche's Level 1 Racing Experience: https://www.porsche.com/specials/en/...ience/level-1/

Again it is less expensive, but my understanding is that the AMG one isn't as focused on preparing owners for a racing series, it's more of a bucket list thing to drive real GT4 and GT3 cars in anger.

That's the one! I was starting to think I was dreaming.

carz80am 02-09-2019 10:06 PM

I haven't done one, but plan on doing one of the ferrari track events in the future, preferably the one in Italy/Europe. It helps you move up the ladder for future cars as well.

kfmcmahon 02-09-2019 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by shapiroeric (Post 15627209)
I'm fairly certain the people taking the course don't bat an eye at the price.....

+1

don't think that group includes us Eric.

utahrock 02-09-2019 10:49 PM

Actually the U.S. based courses are the most expensive, starting at $15K. The ones in Europe are quite a bit cheaper, but still very high. Ferrari dealers have all kinds of goals to meet in order to get better allocations and hold-back money. One of these is getting clients to attend events. So yes, if you want to have a chance of getting rare cars, going to a driving course every year would be one of the things you would do. And another would be to order every car, with lots and lots of expensive options. You'll lose your shirt from depreciation on the likes of Lussos and Californias but getting a Speciale Aperta or a Pista would be pretty nice, and a LaFerrari would more than make up for any depreciation from the lessor cars. But note that in many markets getting to the LaFerrari stage will be impossible or take until the end of time because there will be several long term customers way, way in front of you.

C.J. Ichiban 02-10-2019 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by utahrock
Actually the U.S. based courses are the most expensive, starting at $15K. The ones in Europe are quite a bit cheaper, but still very high. Ferrari dealers have all kinds of goals to meet in order to get better allocations and hold-back money. One of these is getting clients to attend events. So yes, if you want to have a chance of getting rare cars, going to a driving course every year would be one of the things you would do. And another would be to order every car, with lots and lots of expensive options. You'll lose your shirt from depreciation on the likes of Lussos and Californias but getting a Speciale Aperta or a Pista would be pretty nice, and a LaFerrari would more than make up for any depreciation from the lessor cars. But note that in many markets getting to the LaFerrari stage will be impossible or take until the end of time because there will be several long term customers way, way in front of you.

Lots of last time buyers these days. Stay optimistic.


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