GT3 Touring - Integrated Radar Detector and Laser Jammers
01-23-2019, 03:55 PM
#31
Fantastic work, Nick... and great to hear about your upcoming collaboration!
To anyone on the fence, these guys are the real deal, the pictures just don’t do justice. I’ve had people in the car and had to point out the overhead module, it’s that clean.
To anyone on the fence, these guys are the real deal, the pictures just don’t do justice. I’ve had people in the car and had to point out the overhead module, it’s that clean.
01-23-2019, 04:41 PM
#32
Rennlist Member
I have an old passport 9500ix that needs to be updated. Sounds like V1 is the way to go.
Awesome project, i'd love to see what upgrades were done to the Bose system as well.
Awesome project, i'd love to see what upgrades were done to the Bose system as well.
01-23-2019, 05:53 PM
#33
Three Wheelin'
may want to look into the upcoming Uniden R7 with arrows (and shape/design) like the V1, better K band, MRCD support, GPS lock out..
https://www.vortexradar.com/2019/01/...3-with-arrows/
01-23-2019, 06:34 PM
#34
I suspect we should take this to RDforum, but a few thoughts:
Like I mentioned, because of 1) cosmetics of the center head, and 2) the added cost / complexity of the 3rd front head, vs. what I consider the marginal incremental benefit based on my understanding of the system. While I appreciate manufacturer recommendations (like Porsche's recommended 2,000 miles of break-in!), it may not be optimal for everyone's priorities.
Thanks Nick. I understand what you're saying, but I fail to understand why the front can't operate with 2 in the same fashion: one operates as receive when the gun is detected, and the other operates as transmit in response for jamming. In this case the 3rd is just offering additional spatial diversity for receive, but in the event the LIDAR light spot on the car is large (as it is at distance), the 3rd may be redundant. If ALP doesn't support this 2-head config, then that's a hardware limitation of their design rather than theoretical issue of having two receivers.
Anyway, again, amazing install work! Would love to learn more about your rapid prototyping tool set that lets you create these 1-off parts in a time-effective way (if you don't mind sharing!).
Like I mentioned, because of 1) cosmetics of the center head, and 2) the added cost / complexity of the 3rd front head, vs. what I consider the marginal incremental benefit based on my understanding of the system. While I appreciate manufacturer recommendations (like Porsche's recommended 2,000 miles of break-in!), it may not be optimal for everyone's priorities.
The Dragon Eye(DE) is one of the first guns to use Random Pulse Rate(RPR) technology. Laser speed acquisition started with a static pulse rate pattern, meaning the laser gun would emit a signal every couple milliseconds and read the time gaps between the return signals to determine speed – pretty straight forward. The birth of laser jamming forced the guns to have a preset pattern where it might emit three quick pulses followed by five slow pulses, this way the gun could sift through the signal to defeat the laser jammers. Now that all of those patterns are pre-stored in your laser jammers, the only way to fool the system is by generating a completely new pattern every time the LEO pulls the trigger. This is what Dragon Eye does. They're just the first with the tech, and his is the way that the industry is moving.
When working with RPR guns, your jamming system has to read the new pattern within milliseconds and emit a new jam pattern to fool the gun. This is the reason for having three heads up front as well as using the high-powered TX in the rear. One jammer will shut down its send section to process on the receive side even faster. So with three heads in the front, you'll actually be reading on one and jamming on two. It's more of a performance feature than a physical coverage benefit. Same thing in the rear - one receive, one transmit.
When working with RPR guns, your jamming system has to read the new pattern within milliseconds and emit a new jam pattern to fool the gun. This is the reason for having three heads up front as well as using the high-powered TX in the rear. One jammer will shut down its send section to process on the receive side even faster. So with three heads in the front, you'll actually be reading on one and jamming on two. It's more of a performance feature than a physical coverage benefit. Same thing in the rear - one receive, one transmit.
Anyway, again, amazing install work! Would love to learn more about your rapid prototyping tool set that lets you create these 1-off parts in a time-effective way (if you don't mind sharing!).
01-23-2019, 07:09 PM
#35
Platinum Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Thread Starter
The V1 is definitely a great portable unit, just make sure to look into some real laser defense, too!
I suspect we should take this to RDforum, but a few thoughts:
Like I mentioned, because of 1) cosmetics of the center head, and 2) the added cost / complexity of the 3rd front head, vs. what I consider the marginal incremental benefit based on my understanding of the system. While I appreciate manufacturer recommendations (like Porsche's recommended 2,000 miles of break-in!), it may not be optimal for everyone's priorities.
Thanks Nick. I understand what you're saying, but I fail to understand why the front can't operate with 2 in the same fashion: one operates as receive when the gun is detected, and the other operates as transmit in response for jamming. In this case the 3rd is just offering additional spatial diversity for receive, but in the event the LIDAR light spot on the car is large (as it is at distance), the 3rd may be redundant. If ALP doesn't support this 2-head config, then that's a hardware limitation of their design rather than theoretical issue of having two receivers.
Anyway, again, amazing install work! Would love to learn more about your rapid prototyping tool set that lets you create these 1-off parts in a time-effective way (if you don't mind sharing!).
Like I mentioned, because of 1) cosmetics of the center head, and 2) the added cost / complexity of the 3rd front head, vs. what I consider the marginal incremental benefit based on my understanding of the system. While I appreciate manufacturer recommendations (like Porsche's recommended 2,000 miles of break-in!), it may not be optimal for everyone's priorities.
Thanks Nick. I understand what you're saying, but I fail to understand why the front can't operate with 2 in the same fashion: one operates as receive when the gun is detected, and the other operates as transmit in response for jamming. In this case the 3rd is just offering additional spatial diversity for receive, but in the event the LIDAR light spot on the car is large (as it is at distance), the 3rd may be redundant. If ALP doesn't support this 2-head config, then that's a hardware limitation of their design rather than theoretical issue of having two receivers.
Anyway, again, amazing install work! Would love to learn more about your rapid prototyping tool set that lets you create these 1-off parts in a time-effective way (if you don't mind sharing!).
Thanks for the kind words on the integration, too. We put a lot of energy into the design aspect to help make everything look and feel like a part of the original design language from Porsche. I guess it's tough to speak to the time-effective portion since it still feels like it takes us a while. This project took about two weeks, but that's also accounting for the design time and the full audio system upgrade, so all things considered it was fairly quick for the caliber of execution. We just have a small team of industry veterans that are a very cohesive unit when it comes to project management. We've recently added in some automation like laser-cutting and CNC milling that helps us duplicate certain parts for btter efficiency – we're constantly evolving to be better that we were the year before. Lot's of passion in this shop and it's a humbling experience being a part of this team.
05-08-2019, 07:40 PM
#36
Rennlist Member
Fantastic work really appreciate you guys posting such a professional install. I really like your custom insert in the tray for the ALP and escort controls. I currently have the full ALP with radar add on but just removed it for my future 911. Would you guys be interested in making another custom insert for the controller? If so PM me please to discuss further. Thanks Thomas
06-26-2019, 01:29 PM
#37
Any recommendations for someone in Northern California (San Francisco Bay Area or Sacramento area) that does ALP + radar detector installations with this level of quality and integration with the car? Thank you!
