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Definitely. Weight numbers being thrown around are beefy. I haven't taken my 350 on track here. I did do the FPS day last year you get with purchase and was blown away by its all round performance. Didn't expect it. Can only imagine what the 500 would be like and hopefully without issues.
The Camaro ZL1 1LE tips the scale at close to two tons, and it's a hoot to drive on the track.
Would I want to own one? No, but driving one is pure guilty pleasure.
It’s probably a really great car, but this will be a high volume production model as is Chevrolet’s Z06...another words if you can write the check you can get one, especially after the first 6 months. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but two years from now you’ll be able to buy a low mile used 2019 GT 500 at a significant discount, possibly 30K to 40K off of MSRP. For example my 17 Z06’s that had an MSRP of $106K recently sold for $71K and I was probably very lucky.
Let’s say you buy one of these GT 500 and put 10k miles on it in 2 years and decide to move on to the next wiz-bang American Hot Rod...that car just in depreciation could cost you $4.00 to $6.00 per mile, not including fuel, insurance, etc.... In my case my Z06 ended up being $6.00 per mile on depreciation alone. With many of these cars costing upwards of $100K or more and the depreciation that follows, I don’t foresee buying a 2019 GT 500, or any other new American performance car...
I might be just getting to old to throw out good money, but it really seems that buying a 2 year old version is the smart play. Not that buying used is anything new, but now that these performance cars are consistently at $80K to $110K or more, it’s definitely worth another look. The person that’s not in a hurry to buy the latest and greatest American Hot Rod can probably do pretty good, I know the guy that bought my Z06 did.
It’s probably a really great car, but this will be a high volume production model as is Chevrolet’s Z06...another words if you can write the check you can get one, especially after the first 6 months. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but two years from now you’ll be able to buy a low mile used 2019 GT 500 at a significant discount, possibly 30K to 40K off of MSRP. For example my 17 Z06’s that had an MSRP of $106K recently sold for $71K and I was probably very lucky.
Let’s say you buy one of these GT 500 and put 10k miles on it in 2 years and decide to move on to the next wiz-bang American Hot Rod...that car just in depreciation could cost you $4.00 to $6.00 per mile, not including fuel, insurance, etc.... In my case my Z06 ended up being $6.00 per mile on depreciation alone. With many of these cars costing upwards of $100K or more and the depreciation that follows, I don’t foresee buying a 2019 GT 500, or any other new American performance car...
I might be just getting to old to throw out good money, but it really seems that buying a 2 year old version is the smart play. Not that buying used is anything new, but now that these performance cars are consistently at $80K to $110K or more, it’s definitely worth another look. The person that’s not in a hurry to buy the latest and greatest American Hot Rod can probably do pretty good, I know the guy that bought my Z06 did.
^ Bingo.
If you want a great DE car now is the time to buy a GT350/R. No doubt you can pick one up for list new at this point and under with low mileage.
Better yet spend half and buy a used Boss 302 for a DE car. Not as fast as the GT350 stock but still plenty fast, a hoot to drive, reliable and a great track car. Easy to fix and inexpensive to repair and insure. With the right mods it is GT350 fast.
If you just insist on spending $100k plus the obligatory ADM gouging for a track toy then I would rather spend the money on a real proper race car and trailer. That money will buy some really nice dedicated race cars with all the right safety equipment.
If you just insist on spending $100k plus the obligatory ADM gouging for a track toy then I would rather spend the money on a real proper race car and trailer. That money will buy some really nice dedicated race cars with all the right safety equipment.
You make a good point. For that money you could buy a car like this and a ton of spares, which will likely puke in the face of every street-legal Porsche ever made, past present and future.
The manual all-motor GT350R is already at 3,651 lbs officially.... and you can feel a bit of its heft on the track especially under heavy braking and tight high-G turns. So imagine adding at least another 150 lbs to that (if the GT500 will tip the scale at 3,800 lbs curb weight.). So I'll leave that thought to the, err us, track rat's imagination.
Will plopping an Eaton 2.6 Supercharger (which is by the way same as in the C7 ZR1) and the Tremec DCT into the new GT500 plus other beefed up revisons (fatter anti sway bars, stiffer springs, larger wheels/tires, beefier cooling, added liquids, etc.etc.) only sum up to 150 lbs total?? Well we'll see the official numbers sooner or later....
Via Ford website, these were estimated weight specs of the Mustang (note: no supercharger, etc).... it's not a lightweight at all as we may all know by now.
The manual all-motor GT350R is already at 3,651 lbs officially.... and you can feel a bit of its heft on the track especially under heavy braking and tight high-G turns. So imagine adding at least another 150 lbs to that (if the GT500 will tip the scale at 3,800 lbs curb weight.). So I'll leave that thought to the, err us, track rat's imagination.
Will plopping an Eaton 2.6 Supercharger (which is by the way same as in the C7 ZR1) and the Tremec DCT into the new GT500 plus other beefed up revisons (fatter anti sway bars, stiffer springs, larger wheels/tires, beefier cooling, added liquids, etc.etc.) only sum up to 150 lbs total?? Well we'll see the official numbers sooner or later....
Via Ford website, these were estimated weight specs of the Mustang (note: no supercharger, etc).... it's not a lightweight at all as we may all know by now.
It will be a porker. Fast? Sure. It needs 750+hp at those weights but you can’t escspe physics. Also this thing will eat tires and pads like an eating champ eats Krispy Creamies at a donnut eating contest.
Lighter less powerful cars will be just as fast.
Those estimatated 1/4 mile times and 0-60 times don’t impress me a bit
It’s probably a really great car, but this will be a high volume production model as is Chevrolet’s Z06...another words if you can write the check you can get one, especially after the first 6 months. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but two years from now you’ll be able to buy a low mile used 2019 GT 500 at a significant discount, possibly 30K to 40K off of MSRP. For example my 17 Z06’s that had an MSRP of $106K recently sold for $71K and I was probably very lucky.
Let’s say you buy one of these GT 500 and put 10k miles on it in 2 years and decide to move on to the next wiz-bang American Hot Rod...that car just in depreciation could cost you $4.00 to $6.00 per mile, not including fuel, insurance, etc.... In my case my Z06 ended up being $6.00 per mile on depreciation alone. With many of these cars costing upwards of $100K or more and the depreciation that follows, I don’t foresee buying a 2019 GT 500, or any other new American performance car...
I might be just getting to old to throw out good money, but it really seems that buying a 2 year old version is the smart play. Not that buying used is anything new, but now that these performance cars are consistently at $80K to $110K or more, it’s definitely worth another look. The person that’s not in a hurry to buy the latest and greatest American Hot Rod can probably do pretty good, I know the guy that bought my Z06 did.
Ring ring! We have a winner! I totally agree with this. The price drop will be significant down the road; if I'm interested in the future, I'll think about adding it several years down the road. Although, now that I think about it, the higher priority buys for me would be a GT350R or a 1967 Mustang Fastback (in black with a 4 speed manual)
I think the 350s and Rs are still on their way down, and the new GT500 is only going to drive them lower. If/when 17' GT350Rs get into the mid 50s I am going to really have to resist buying one.
I think the 350s and Rs are still on their way down, and the new GT500 is only going to drive them lower. If/when 17' GT350Rs get into the mid 50s I am going to really have to resist buying one.
You can now buy nearly new 350Rs for $69K to $68K and possibly less. These are cars with 1000 to 2000 miles on the clock.
At these numbers they are starting to interest me.
I added a GT350 to my stable in January. My wife wanted a back seat for our 10 year old so I could not opt for the R model. Yeah, I thought of undeleting the rear delete seat but....
It is a beast but not a wild beast like the 500.
Having said that, still breaking in the engine. Need temps to be above 50 to take it out for break in drives. Plan is to use it as a secondary daily driver and DE where I instruct.
01-17-2019, 12:21 AM
