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Old 01-15-2019, 04:16 PM
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The lack of brake dust alone is worth it for pccb. Iíll never spec a Porsche without them. Ever.
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Old 01-15-2019, 04:23 PM
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pccb. . .wp isn't worth much
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Old 01-15-2019, 04:32 PM
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PCCB

It's a relative bargain when ordered as an option on a new car.
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I wouldn't go with WP at all for $18k.
If it were any other car I'd say go with ceramics. However, this is one of the best braking road cars there is even with steels so my advice would be don't take either option and save $28k. Good luck and congratulations on the allocation.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:41 PM
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Thank you everyone for your inputs and suggestions. I think I will go with the PCCB over the WP. I guess the difference could be spent on Dundon race headers and provide actual performance gains over WP.
Appreciate the help!
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PCCB over WP.

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Old 01-16-2019, 02:09 AM
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If you think WP is a performance adder your kidding yourself. Comical actually.

PCCB is the performance adder. Better braking, less fade and less unspring weight.

WP is an appearance package.

my dealer said Iíll will get more on trade in with a WP car. About $9k more. I just need to spend $18k more to get it.

you also get more on trade with Pccb than steel.

Just pick the one you like more and forget about trade in. My advice.
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Waxer View Post
If you think WP is a performance adder your kidding yourself. Comical actually.

PCCB is the performance adder. Better braking, less fade and less unspring weight.

WP is an appearance package.

my dealer said Iíll will get more on trade in with a WP car. About $9k more. I just need to spend $18k more to get it.

you also get more on trade with Pccb than steel.

Just pick the one you like more and forget about trade in. My advice.
Thanks for your input. If you read my post, I never once said the WP added performance. Like you, and most who suggested, I agree with the PCCB option.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Waxer View Post
If you think WP is a performance adder your kidding yourself. Comical actually.

PCCB is the performance adder. Better braking, less fade and less unspring weight.

WP is an appearance package.

my dealer said Iíll will get more on trade in with a WP car. About $9k more. I just need to spend $18k more to get it.

you also get more on trade with Pccb than steel.

Just pick the one you like more and forget about trade in. My advice.
that was funny. I would have gotten kicked out of finance class telling a customer to spend 18k and you will receive 9 back pretty classic. I hope you asked him did he hear what he just said(;
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by catdog2 View Post
I'd say save your money and skip both; neither fundamentally alters the car...
If you absolutely had to chose then maybe WP but then how many WP are there with non-PCCB?

When the next RS comes out, you likely won't recover even 70% of WP cost on resale
Me too. If budget is a concern, skip them both.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:05 AM
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On the PCCB topic...

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Originally Posted by Ducati1199 View Post
I wouldn't go with WP at all for $18k.
If it were any other car I'd say go with ceramics. However, this is one of the best braking road cars there is even with steels so my advice would be don't take either option and save $28k. Good luck and congratulations on the allocation.
This ^.
WP is not worth it in the US. If it included the titanium roll bar, maybe.
PCCB is lighter, but most would be hard pressed to tell the difference on street or track. Stopping distance is the same. Standard Porsche brakes are incredibly fade resistant. Maybe in an endurance race the benefit of ceramics would be noted. So you are basically paying almost $10k for less brake dust. How many times could you have the car detailed for $10k?
Trade value of a PCCB car might be $5k higher than one with cast iron brakes. Again, about half what it cost.

I'd get the most minimal spec you can live with. They all drive the same.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:23 PM
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I am going PCCB over WP especially now since the hood is painted. Outside of the carbon paddles (which I think I can add later) there was really nothing that makes me reconsider this decision.
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Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye View Post
The lack of brake dust alone is worth it for pccb. Iíll never spec a Porsche without them. Ever.
I feel the same way
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