.2 GT3 VS .2 GT3RS
01-11-2019, 05:16 PM
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other than transmission preference ,
RS feel more planted
RS looks more beefy and beastly
RS is more noisy
Stiffness is very close
RS has sharper steering
all these observation are from street driving
by the way I had a 2017 R8 v10 plus , and is an excellent car , more refined than GT cars , but less emotional
RS feel more planted
RS looks more beefy and beastly
RS is more noisy
Stiffness is very close
RS has sharper steering
all these observation are from street driving
by the way I had a 2017 R8 v10 plus , and is an excellent car , more refined than GT cars , but less emotional
01-11-2019, 05:38 PM
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all the above is just a placebo effect,
Henry at 8 mins tells you the exact difference between the GT3.2 and a GT3RS.2 . Period
Henry at 8 mins tells you the exact difference between the GT3.2 and a GT3RS.2 . Period
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01-11-2019, 06:21 PM
#18
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I was a few minutes slow on the trigger.
I was going to start a count-down for fxz replying with the link/quote from the Henry Catchpole review that will forever cement the 3 better than the 3rs. One of those Batman warning lights goes off for fxz when someone asks to compare the 1.2 3 vs 3rs. Whew, world order has been restored.
Beg someone to let you drive em both. Lots of differences beyond the transmission but obviously that's a BIG one; and comes down to personal preference.
I was going to start a count-down for fxz replying with the link/quote from the Henry Catchpole review that will forever cement the 3 better than the 3rs. One of those Batman warning lights goes off for fxz when someone asks to compare the 1.2 3 vs 3rs. Whew, world order has been restored.
Beg someone to let you drive em both. Lots of differences beyond the transmission but obviously that's a BIG one; and comes down to personal preference.
01-11-2019, 06:24 PM
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I was a few minutes slow on the trigger.
I was going to start a count-down for fxz replying with the link/quote from the Henry Catchpole review that will forever cement the 3 better than the 3rs. One of those Batman warning lights goes off for fxz when someone asks to compare the 1.2 3 vs 3rs. Whew, world order has been restored.
Beg someone to let you drive em both. Lots of differences beyond the transmission but obviously that's a BIG one; and comes down to personal preference.
I was going to start a count-down for fxz replying with the link/quote from the Henry Catchpole review that will forever cement the 3 better than the 3rs. One of those Batman warning lights goes off for fxz when someone asks to compare the 1.2 3 vs 3rs. Whew, world order has been restored.
Beg someone to let you drive em both. Lots of differences beyond the transmission but obviously that's a BIG one; and comes down to personal preference.
01-11-2019, 09:31 PM
#20
Burning Brakes
Massive difference in the suspension (what matters the most for handling, but few can explore).
Spring rates in 991.1 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 are rhe same, spring rates for .2 RS went up by a lot, like never before, closer to race cars spring rates than any 996/997/991 GT car (where in all these generations spring rates were similar).
I counted at least 18 front and rear suspension bushings that went from rubber to monoballls or full metal, in my 996 GT3 this upgrade made the car drop lap times everywhere. The .1RS and .2 GT3 still use rubber bushings in these 18 points.
Downforce difference is big too, the new .2 RS is the Porsche street car with the most downforce, close to 1000 lbs at 186mph.
All these diferences can only be appreciated at high speed on a racetrack. If the car is intended for street use and occasional track days, a manual GT3 Touring or a 911 R are the ideal choice.
Brakes cooling was also updated for the new RS.
... and the RS can fit fat tires under the stock fenders.
Spring rates in 991.1 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 are rhe same, spring rates for .2 RS went up by a lot, like never before, closer to race cars spring rates than any 996/997/991 GT car (where in all these generations spring rates were similar).
I counted at least 18 front and rear suspension bushings that went from rubber to monoballls or full metal, in my 996 GT3 this upgrade made the car drop lap times everywhere. The .1RS and .2 GT3 still use rubber bushings in these 18 points.
Downforce difference is big too, the new .2 RS is the Porsche street car with the most downforce, close to 1000 lbs at 186mph.
All these diferences can only be appreciated at high speed on a racetrack. If the car is intended for street use and occasional track days, a manual GT3 Touring or a 911 R are the ideal choice.
Brakes cooling was also updated for the new RS.
... and the RS can fit fat tires under the stock fenders.
01-12-2019, 02:31 AM
#21
Nordschleife Master
Massive difference in the suspension (what matters the most for handling, but few can explore).
Spring rates in 991.1 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 are rhe same, spring rates for .2 RS went up by a lot, like never before, closer to race cars spring rates than any 996/997/991 GT car (where in all these generations spring rates were similar).
I counted at least 18 front and rear suspension bushings that went from rubber to monoballls or full metal, in my 996 GT3 this upgrade made the car drop lap times everywhere. The .1RS and .2 GT3 still use rubber bushings in these 18 points.
Downforce difference is big too, the new .2 RS is the Porsche street car with the most downforce, close to 1000 lbs at 186mph.
All these diferences can only be appreciated at high speed on a racetrack. If the car is intended for street use and occasional track days, a manual GT3 Touring or a 911 R are the ideal choice.
Brakes cooling was also updated for the new RS.
... and the RS can fit fat tires under the stock fenders.
Spring rates in 991.1 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 are rhe same, spring rates for .2 RS went up by a lot, like never before, closer to race cars spring rates than any 996/997/991 GT car (where in all these generations spring rates were similar).
I counted at least 18 front and rear suspension bushings that went from rubber to monoballls or full metal, in my 996 GT3 this upgrade made the car drop lap times everywhere. The .1RS and .2 GT3 still use rubber bushings in these 18 points.
Downforce difference is big too, the new .2 RS is the Porsche street car with the most downforce, close to 1000 lbs at 186mph.
All these diferences can only be appreciated at high speed on a racetrack. If the car is intended for street use and occasional track days, a manual GT3 Touring or a 911 R are the ideal choice.
Brakes cooling was also updated for the new RS.
... and the RS can fit fat tires under the stock fenders.
01-12-2019, 02:32 AM
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Massive difference in the suspension (what matters the most for handling, but few can explore).
Spring rates in 991.1 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 are rhe same, spring rates for .2 RS went up by a lot, like never before, closer to race cars spring rates than any 996/997/991 GT car (where in all these generations spring rates were similar).
I counted at least 18 front and rear suspension bushings that went from rubber to monoballls or full metal, in my 996 GT3 this upgrade made the car drop lap times everywhere. The .1RS and .2 GT3 still use rubber bushings in these 18 points.
Downforce difference is big too, the new .2 RS is the Porsche street car with the most downforce, close to 1000 lbs at 186mph.
All these diferences can only be appreciated at high speed on a racetrack. If the car is intended for street use and occasional track days, a manual GT3 Touring or a 911 R are the ideal choice.
Brakes cooling was also updated for the new RS.
... and the RS can fit fat tires under the stock fenders.
Spring rates in 991.1 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 are rhe same, spring rates for .2 RS went up by a lot, like never before, closer to race cars spring rates than any 996/997/991 GT car (where in all these generations spring rates were similar).
I counted at least 18 front and rear suspension bushings that went from rubber to monoballls or full metal, in my 996 GT3 this upgrade made the car drop lap times everywhere. The .1RS and .2 GT3 still use rubber bushings in these 18 points.
Downforce difference is big too, the new .2 RS is the Porsche street car with the most downforce, close to 1000 lbs at 186mph.
All these diferences can only be appreciated at high speed on a racetrack. If the car is intended for street use and occasional track days, a manual GT3 Touring or a 911 R are the ideal choice.
Brakes cooling was also updated for the new RS.
... and the RS can fit fat tires under the stock fenders.
01-12-2019, 02:42 AM
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Here you are warriors
saying a GT3 is s CnC car is the 2019 stupid comment
nor understsnding that the 997 era is gone and RS is good nothing vs a Pista or Performsnte is ridicoulus
if u want to go fast on track these days there are better cars
of course unless you don t have the money or your track targets are Nissan GT R or AMG GT R
Anyhow if u are serious on track buy a new Atom not a CnC look my biig wing i wannabe on track
saying a GT3 is s CnC car is the 2019 stupid comment
nor understsnding that the 997 era is gone and RS is good nothing vs a Pista or Performsnte is ridicoulus
if u want to go fast on track these days there are better cars
of course unless you don t have the money or your track targets are Nissan GT R or AMG GT R
Anyhow if u are serious on track buy a new Atom not a CnC look my biig wing i wannabe on track
01-12-2019, 02:46 AM
#24
Three Wheelin'
I was a few minutes slow on the trigger.
I was going to start a count-down for fxz replying with the link/quote from the Henry Catchpole review that will forever cement the 3 better than the 3rs. One of those Batman warning lights goes off for fxz when someone asks to compare the 1.2 3 vs 3rs. Whew, world order has been restored.
Beg someone to let you drive em both. Lots of differences beyond the transmission but obviously that's a BIG one; and comes down to personal preference.
I was going to start a count-down for fxz replying with the link/quote from the Henry Catchpole review that will forever cement the 3 better than the 3rs. One of those Batman warning lights goes off for fxz when someone asks to compare the 1.2 3 vs 3rs. Whew, world order has been restored.
Beg someone to let you drive em both. Lots of differences beyond the transmission but obviously that's a BIG one; and comes down to personal preference.
I had the same thought.OP- both are great, you can’t go wrong with either. If you want a manual grab the GT3 (or gt4 with a Dundon header and save 80k).
The RS is what it is. Aero, stiffer suspension, more power, better grip and width.
01-12-2019, 03:04 AM
#25
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Here you are warriors
saying a GT3 is s CnC car is the 2019 stupid comment
nor understsnding that the 997 era is gone and RS is good nothing vs a Pista or Performsnte is ridicoulus
if u want to go fast on track these days there are better cars
of course unless you don t have the money or your track targets are Nissan GT R or AMG GT R
Anyhow if u are serious on track buy a new Atom not a CnC look my biig wing i wannabe on track
saying a GT3 is s CnC car is the 2019 stupid comment
nor understsnding that the 997 era is gone and RS is good nothing vs a Pista or Performsnte is ridicoulus
if u want to go fast on track these days there are better cars
of course unless you don t have the money or your track targets are Nissan GT R or AMG GT R
Anyhow if u are serious on track buy a new Atom not a CnC look my biig wing i wannabe on track
However, I rarely see a 991 RS on the track, only GT3s and GT4s, as unfortunately the RS has now become a CnC queen.
01-12-2019, 03:43 AM
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i consider an RS a GT3 with tweaked suspension and aero whilst the engine is finally the same so everyone knows on street you can go as fast as on ANY RS,
on the track i would go with something better without that aeroplane nurburgring wing,
not saying is a bad product when compared to the standard sport cars, until Porsche warranty works all good but everyone think to sell it 1 minute before close to MSRPs and i also think this last of whatever is gone,
nevertheless i love NAs and i wish a carbon tub very light RS or something like the Vonnen kers, then i am in,
because an RS should be an RS
Last edited by fxz; 01-12-2019 at 04:42 AM.
01-12-2019, 09:10 AM
#27
other than transmission preference ,
RS feel more planted
RS looks more beefy and beastly
RS is more noisy
Stiffness is very close
RS has sharper steering
all these observation are from street driving
by the way I had a 2017 R8 v10 plus , and is an excellent car , more refined than GT cars , but less emotional
RS feel more planted
RS looks more beefy and beastly
RS is more noisy
Stiffness is very close
RS has sharper steering
all these observation are from street driving
by the way I had a 2017 R8 v10 plus , and is an excellent car , more refined than GT cars , but less emotional
01-12-2019, 10:12 AM
#28
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I think any of the current 991 GT are somewhat boring on the street (or jail). I'd rather have a 981 GT/spyder (or fcar or older GT/911 variant). At same time, any of the 991 GT variants are amazing as drive-to-track cars. But, then again, I start to scratch my head about whether I should be tracking a 200k crazy performing car with very little safety equipment (esp in the US). So as amazing as the 991/992 GT gen is, it's starting to fall in a weird zone for me where I might leave it and have some old crap for the street and a more track dedicated car for the track. But it is nice to drive it there, punish it, and drive it back; they all are in a class of their own in that use. And amongst all the 991 GT to choose from, to be used that way, I choose the 991.2 3rs as the best of the litter (a drive-to-track and back home track-focused car). For cnc/back road drives, I can name a dozen other cars I'd rather have vs any 991 GT (some porsche, some not).
Just one man's opinion. I'm sure a lot of people think they are the end all, be all, as fun street cars.
Just one man's opinion. I'm sure a lot of people think they are the end all, be all, as fun street cars.
01-12-2019, 10:41 AM
#29
Nordschleife Master
Here you are warriors
saying a GT3 is s CnC car is the 2019 stupid comment
nor understsnding that the 997 era is gone and RS is good nothing vs a Pista or Performsnte is ridicoulus
if u want to go fast on track these days there are better cars
of course unless you don t have the money or your track targets are Nissan GT R or AMG GT R
Anyhow if u are serious on track buy a new Atom not a CnC look my biig wing i wannabe on track
saying a GT3 is s CnC car is the 2019 stupid comment
nor understsnding that the 997 era is gone and RS is good nothing vs a Pista or Performsnte is ridicoulus
if u want to go fast on track these days there are better cars
of course unless you don t have the money or your track targets are Nissan GT R or AMG GT R
Anyhow if u are serious on track buy a new Atom not a CnC look my biig wing i wannabe on track
Porsche is the more reliable track car than either and can be made considerably faster for little money with tune, headers etc...
One thing the Perf will be way faster at is depreciation compared to the RS.
Porsche. There is no substitute.
01-12-2019, 10:53 AM
#30
Nordschleife Master
911 GT3 RS
488 Pista
Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club
1:17.68
1:16.06
Anneau du Rhin Short
0:56.41
0:56.93
Not much of a difference ever with cooked Ferrari times on short circutis
488 Pista
Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club
1:17.68
1:16.06
Anneau du Rhin Short
0:56.41
0:56.93
Not much of a difference ever with cooked Ferrari times on short circutis
