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futureuser 01-10-2019 09:29 PM

New Allotment
 
Is it reasonable to pay an ADM on a used GT3 if the dealer promises a next generation allotment, at MSRP, and offers to put it in writing? My local dealer didn't take me very seriously when I built a GT3 online and sent it to them. My hope is to establish a relationship, and be able to do this every so often. Perhaps I'm not being realistic as I have heard others talking about the high quantity of cars that they buy, in order to do this.

I have owned 2 911s so far.

0to60 01-10-2019 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by futureuser
Is it reasonable to pay an ADM on a used GT3 if the dealer promises a next generation allotment, at MSRP, and offers to put it in writing? My local dealer didn't take me very seriously when I built a GT3 online and sent it to them. My hope is to establish a relationship, and be able to do this every so often. Perhaps I'm not being realistic as I have heard others talking about the high quantity of cars that they buy, in order to do this.

I have owned 2 911s so far.

If the economy continues in the current direction, GT cars will be below MSRP. Paying an ADM on a current car in order to obtain the next at MSRP is a losing proposition

garudatwo 01-10-2019 09:42 PM

They’ll piss on you for the trade in when the time comes. Dealers will get their pound of flesh one way or the other

futureuser 01-10-2019 09:56 PM

I do see the 2018 GT3 market softening a little, but I'm not sure about the economy. I'm not concerned about trading the car back to the dealer, since I don't live locally. Fortunately, I live near one of the experience centers, so I should be able to work with any dealer in the country on the future allotment. My concern is probably more about the legitimacy of the written offer. The dealer is relatively new, but in a large market.

Alan C. 01-10-2019 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by garudatwo (Post 15557331)
They’ll piss on you for the trade in when the time comes. Dealers will get their pound of flesh one way or the other

:thumbsup:

Dr.Bill 01-11-2019 01:42 AM

Be careful. A friend of mine did that, then there was a change in management at the dealer and the new people had no idea who he was. Poof - promised allocation gone.
Not a wise move IMHO.

Sunny_M3 01-11-2019 02:25 AM

I would not do this! If they really want to sell you a future car at MSRP, they'll put you on the list. I am sure there are plenty of dealerships taking names for the next gen GT3 at MSRP. I got my 991.2 GT3 at MSRP by just calling my dealer very far in advance (2 years to be exact) and putting down a small holding deposit. I was able to customize my own build (and it was not a highly optioned one at all), sent it to the GT cars salesperson, and they put in the order for me (no hassles and no issues). Keep in mind, I had NEVER purchased a Porsche before; this is my first one.

iheart9k 01-11-2019 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by Dr.Bill (Post 15557724)
Be careful. A friend of mine did that, then there was a change in management at the dealer and the new people had no idea who he was. Poof - promised allocation gone.
Not a wise move IMHO.

+1 happened to me and a few other people on this forum. Unless you can get it in writing, on company letter head, signed by both SA and GM, accompanied with a photo of them both holding it up along with today's paper...then MAYBE I'd consider it. I would hold out as mkt for used GT3 is softening. I've been looking for a manual 991.2 GT3 since Oct. When I started looking, Autotrader had between 45-50 for sale on any given week. Now, 75 with price reductions on a few.

ncp 01-11-2019 04:53 AM

In that case, just tell 'em no thanks... in lieu of the future guarantee, you'll just take today's car at MSRP.

Freddie Two Bs 01-11-2019 08:06 AM

I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that contract would be very weak. What if they get fewer allocations than they expect and want to sell them for more money for example. They could turn around and say "unfortunately Porsche cancelled YOUR allocation". And it's a car that hasn't even been announced yet, and that in theory could never exist. So it's a contract where they commit to sell at an unknown msrp one of an unknown number of cars allocated to them of an expected but as of yet only hypothetical model. That sounds weak to me.

2006m5 01-11-2019 08:16 AM

it all depends if it's good guy dealer.
thats what it boils down.
some dealers are true and some are not.
good luck.....
but if I was you I would try to make a deal on used
gt3.

redmonkey928 01-11-2019 10:09 AM

How many Porsche dealers were there in 2007-2008 when the 997.1 RS was the car to have?
How many when the 997.2 RS 4.0 was new?
How many are there now with the 991.2 GT3/RS?

I suspect if those numbers are changing, you might have an idea as to what said contract will be worth in the future... Buy a car to drive now and stop worrying about the future cars, or if thats what you want, start googling every dealerships phone number.

carz80am 01-11-2019 11:21 AM

I would never pay more for something now based on a future position. The gm could change, the whole dealership staff could change, dealership could be sold, etc. Also, something in writing doesn't mean its worth anything. Just my .02

FLGT 01-11-2019 11:25 AM

NO

NJRickD 01-11-2019 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by 0to60 (Post 15557328)
If the economy continues in the current direction, GT cars will be below MSRP. Paying an ADM on a current car in order to obtain the next at MSRP is a losing proposition

yeah, the economy is going to hell. lol


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