Manthey Racing components in U.S.A.
#46
I'd be interested in this too. Would keeping the stock GT3 wing be ok if the Cup lip was added? On the surface adding more front downforce to a rear engined car seems like a good idea but I'd like to know more.
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Maybe using the high downforce setting on rear wing would be enough to offset the extra downforce on most tracks - would have to inquire of Manthey.
#48
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funny that MR do not mention the (cup) front splitter/lip in their MR product catalog; esp since even with the OEM wing, the manual states that on high df setting some additional understeer may be experienced?
#49
Adding more front downforce could be a good thing up to a point, but at really high speeds it could be a very bad idea without balancing with more rear downforce. Suppose you are at Nürburgring or some place with very high speed corners. More downforce would push the front tires further into the track (good) but it would tend to raise the rear of the car like a teeter-totter (bad). I wouldn't do one without the other...
Maybe using the high downforce setting on rear wing would be enough to offset the extra downforce on most tracks - would have to inquire of Manthey.
Maybe using the high downforce setting on rear wing would be enough to offset the extra downforce on most tracks - would have to inquire of Manthey.
High speed corners? You mean like The Kink at Road America? Eh, it's only 105mph through there in my M3 on slicks without aero.
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It's all speculation to some degree, hence the request for more information. Does 311RS have specific (empirical?) data and feedback from MR that shows you can run the front Cup lip on its own with the OEM rear wing.
High speed corners? You mean like The Kink at Road America? Eh, it's only 105mph through there in my M3 on slicks without aero.
High speed corners? You mean like The Kink at Road America? Eh, it's only 105mph through there in my M3 on slicks without aero.
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+1 Not too mention you really don't want *less* front traction (or any imbalance in grip at either end) once you crest it!!! you only have to browse youtube to see all the calamities that occur when a car "gets out of shape" on that downhill left hander between the crest of Schwendenkreuz and the downhill straight into to Aremberg ...
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So anyone know of a source for the cup lip?
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Adding more front downforce could be a good thing up to a point, but at really high speeds it could be a very bad idea without balancing with more rear downforce. Suppose you are at Nürburgring or some place with very high speed corners. More downforce would push the front tires further into the track (good) but it would tend to raise the rear of the car like a teeter-totter (bad). I wouldn't do one without the other...
Maybe using the high downforce setting on rear wing would be enough to offset the extra downforce on most tracks - would have to inquire of Manthey.
Maybe using the high downforce setting on rear wing would be enough to offset the extra downforce on most tracks - would have to inquire of Manthey.
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#56
The Kink is a bit of a pucker as there are concrete walls about two car widths off the track, and they bear a lot of paint from impacts over the years.
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We've emailed to ask about the use of the Cup front lip in combination with the larger rear wing - will report back. We weren't part of the development of that setup so cannot comment much other than the obvious, clearly they were attempting to balance with the larger rear wing.
Here's a clearer picture of the latest front lip setup on the Manthey Racing 991.2 GT3, taken in September during our visit. Also - note the extreme angle that the rear wing is set at.
Here's a clearer picture of the latest front lip setup on the Manthey Racing 991.2 GT3, taken in September during our visit. Also - note the extreme angle that the rear wing is set at.
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We've emailed to ask about the use of the Cup front lip in combination with the larger rear wing - will report back. We weren't part of the development of that setup so cannot comment much other than the obvious, clearly they were attempting to balance with the larger rear wing.
Here's a clearer picture of the latest front lip setup on the Manthey Racing 991.2 GT3, taken in September during our visit. Also - note the extreme angle that the rear wing is set at.
Here's a clearer picture of the latest front lip setup on the Manthey Racing 991.2 GT3, taken in September during our visit. Also - note the extreme angle that the rear wing is set at.