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TexasPorschelover 01-03-2019 10:38 PM

Buc ee's Fuel Stations Carry 92 octane Ethanol Free Gas Houston area
 
Just a heads up for you guys/galsin the Houston area. Buc ee's now carries premium 92 octane ethanol free fuel at their Waller County store. I checked Katy and while they carry ethanol free fuel they don't have the premium 92 octane there. I have not looked into the others as these are the two closest to me (I'm in town Memorial). Buc ees is now the largest fuel retailer in the US and if you have ever been to one, they are amazing and they sell truck load after truck load of fresh fuel. They have over 100 pumps and a 52,000 sf store at this one location in Waller TX alone. Here is an article about their fuel jobber

https://www.bulktransporter.com/tank-fleets/rb-stewart

and one about Buc ee's in Forbes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterca.../#39f367cc7626

i also happen to know their fuel includes a terrific blend of additives but the best part is zero ethanol. I filled up six 5-gallon race cans while I was there last weekend. I have not seen premium high octane zero ethanol fuel in Texas before. I have no connection to Buc ee's whatsoever and this is only a friendly heads up. if you don't care no need to comment. if you love ethanol, just love it and no need to comment. If you hate Buc ee's OK. Not trying to start a fuel brand debate or anything. Just FYI. Happy New Year.

wru 01-03-2019 11:44 PM

Q: Does Buc-ee's have Ethanol Free Gas or DEF at the pump?


A: These locations have Ethanol Free Gas or DEF at the pump:
  • Angleton, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 2304 West Mulberry (Corner of 35 and 288), Buc-ee's #25. Coming Late 2018
  • Bastrop, TX 87 Octane and DEF at 1700 Hwy 71 East, Buc-ee’s #28 only on the north side of the store.
  • Brazoria, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 801 North Brooks Street (Hwy 36), Buc-ee’s #3
  • Denton, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 2800 South I-35E, Buc-ee’s #39
  • Fort Worth, TX DEF at 15901 North Freeway, Buc-ee’s #37
  • Katy, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 27700 Katy Freeway, Buc-ee’s #40
  • Lake Jackson, TX 92 Octane at 899 Oyster Creek Drive, Buc-ee’s #1
  • Melissa, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 1550 Central Expressway, Buc-ee’s #44 Coming Second Quarter 2019
  • Robertsdale, Alabama 87 or 89 Octane and DEF at 20403 County Road 68, Buc-ee’s #42 Coming First Quarter 2019
  • Royce City, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 5005 E. Interstate 30, Buc-ee’s #38 Coming Third Quarter 2019
  • Texas City, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 6201 Gulf Freeway (I-45), Buc-ee’s #33. Coming First Half 2019
  • Waller, TX 92 Octane and DEF at 40900 US Hwy 290 Bypass, Buc-ee’s #18 only on the west side of the store.
  • Wharton, TX DEF at 10484 US 59, Buc-ee’s #30

911-TOUR 01-04-2019 12:01 AM

Thanks for the head's up! Looks like a drive northwest is in order this weekend (also in Memorial area).

cheers!

GrantG 01-04-2019 12:18 PM

List of Ethanol-free stations by State:

https://www.pure-gas.org/

dewilmoth 01-04-2019 01:51 PM

Nice, one of those is right own the street from my house.

I need to do more research on the benefits though, haven't read much about it. I've always used Shell, or more recently, Costco gas at 93 octane. Wondering if there's real data showing 92 pure gas is better than 93 E10.

GrantG 01-04-2019 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by dewilmoth (Post 15541524)
Wondering if there's real data showing 92 pure gas is better than 93 E10.

92 Pure gas is probably kinder to your fuel system (though modern cars are pretty tolerant to E10). 93 octane (independent of other variables) should be an improvement, but Ethanol has considerably less energy per gallon than gasoline. Best would be Ethanol-free 93 and my guess is that the lower energy in E10 is a bigger hit to power than dropping one point of octane (and E0 is better for the fuel system).

Where I live, I can only get 91 octane (with or without Ethanol), so I prefer to go without Ethanol...


dewilmoth 01-04-2019 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by GrantG
92 Pure gas is probably kinder to your fuel system (though modern cars are pretty tolerant to E10). 93 octane (independent of other variables) should be an improvement, but Ethanol has considerably less energy per gallon than gasoline. Best would be Ethanol-free 93 and my guess is that the lower energy in E10 is a bigger hit to power than dropping one point of octane (and E0 is better for the fuel system).

Where I live, I can only get 91 octane (with or without Ethanol), so I prefer to go without Ethanol...

All makes sense, just wondering whether the car would run rich of peak on E0, negating any power benefits, since it's tuned for up to E10. The closed loop maps may adjust, giving better mileage, but I'd guess the open loop maps would run rich. Not a huge problem, but might negate any benefits, other than keeping Ethanol out of the fuel system.

GrantG 01-04-2019 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by dewilmoth (Post 15541626)
All makes sense, just wondering whether the car would run rich of peak on E0, negating any power benefits, since it's tuned for up to E10. The closed loop maps may adjust, giving better mileage, but I'd guess the open loop maps would run rich. Not a huge problem, but might negate any benefits, other than keeping Ethanol out of the fuel system.

I don't know how sophisticated the ECU is (can it optimize mixture like a flexible fuel vehicle within a narrow range?). And if not, does the map assume 0, 5, or 10% Ethanol?

I would think it is not running rich enough to optimize for E10, as that would negatively impact the fuel consumption figures (which are quite important these days). My guess is that it may be tuned somewhere around E0 to E5 with enough headroom to work well from 0 to 10% (if it doesn't optimize to the given content in the tank)...

TexasPorschelover 01-04-2019 10:52 PM

Ethanol is bad for your fuel system especially if your car sits. Farmers who grow corn for ethanol claim that technology has made it friendly to fuel systems but the coal industry also claims that it has made burning coal good for the air. Beyond that the energy density of hydrocarbon based fuels is far higher than fuels made from what should end up as tortillas. So if you can get high(er) octain fuel that is sans ethanol.... buy it.

jimmermd 01-05-2019 01:31 PM

I too believe in ethanol free.
A good resource to locate sources:
https://www.pure-gas.org

BOS991.2 01-06-2019 12:20 AM

took the touring out for a rip out to Truth bbq in Breham, TX today only to find a sign on the front door saying it’s closed for the holidays lol.... luckily the purpose of the trip was more for the ride than it was for the bbq. on 290 east there’s a huge buc ee’s billboard advertising for ethanol free gas, love it.

back when i was living in upstate NY some Stewart’s stations had ethanol free 91-92 octane (premium cbob with no ethanol blended into it) and it was amazing how much more of a range each tank got vs 10% ethanol blend.

thanks for the the heads up @TexasPorschelover .... let me know when you’re up for some touring in the tourings!

TexasPorschelover 01-07-2019 10:37 PM

Looking at February 2nd out to the Shiner Beer Brewery
https://www.shiner.com/brewery/tours
We could meet at Buc ees in Katy and go from there. Have some other guys going too.
Going this back road route
https://goo.gl/maps/frXC7tH4X2x

toddjude 01-07-2019 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by BOS991.2 (Post 15544825)
took the touring out for a rip out to Truth bbq in Breham, TX today only to find a sign on the front door saying it’s closed for the holidays lol.... luckily the purpose of the trip was more for the ride than it was for the bbq. on 290 east there’s a huge buc ee’s billboard advertising for ethanol free gas, love it.

back when i was living in upstate NY some Stewart’s stations had ethanol free 91-92 octane (premium cbob with no ethanol blended into it) and it was amazing how much more of a range each tank got vs 10% ethanol blend.

thanks for the the heads up @TexasPorschelover .... let me know when you’re up for some touring in the tourings!

i believe they are building a truth bbq on wash/Yale

porscheflat6 01-07-2019 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by GrantG (Post 15541265)
List of Ethanol-free stations by State:

https://www.pure-gas.org/

Thanks for sharing

TexasPorschelover 02-24-2019 12:43 PM


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Bucees Katy now has 92 octane ethanol free gas. Beautiful drive this morning.


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