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Old 12-28-2018, 03:02 AM
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I have or had porsches from 1970 to present

define what is pure ?
there nothing pure about 991
Old 12-28-2018, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
That's what the 997 guys said about the 991, and so on, and so on....
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Old 12-28-2018, 03:40 AM
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If you track your car- newer model is always faster.

If you fix your cars, older are always simpler.

Save more money to buy both.

Dream 5 911 only garage would be:

GT3RS under warranty coverage for traxxing
993 GT2 / 993RS
997 4.0RS
R/Touring/Speedster/ Longhood of some kind
G body or 964 body car in funky color
Old 12-28-2018, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JSA
Have you seen how big the 992 chassis is?
Yes, it's almost dimensionally exact, I think one inch or less longer front overhang. And what does this have to do with purity? And what is purity anyway? 550 spyder was pure. I'm starting to think there is a bot on Rennlist which feeds these type of nonsensical threads with a certain cadence just to keep us engaged.

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Looks like it succeeded with me anyway
Old 12-28-2018, 06:36 AM
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Despite being almost identical in footprint, it's taller and quite a bit heavier..Its exactly 100Kg heavier than the 991.1 and 55Kg heavier than the 991.2..Despite being the same size, the 992 is now becoming decidedly lardy especially for a '911'..
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992 4S Vs 991.2 4S
difference is 65Kg not 55

992 2S Curb weight PDK 3,382 lb
991.2 2S Curb weight PDK 3,219 lb
difference is 163 lb that is 74 Kg

new 992.1 2S 3,382 lb Vs
991.1 2S
3120lb
difference is 262 lb that is 119Kg !

worth to note that 991.1 2S PDK is 88 lb that is 40 Kg lighter than previous 997.2 2S PDK

..And Porsche says that total weight of the 991.1 Carrera S with PDK (versus a comparably equipped 997) is about 88 lb. lighter, at 3120 lb.

so jumping from a 991.1 Carrers S to a 992 Carrera S you will get 262 lb 119 Kg weight which is not a small difference

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Old 12-28-2018, 08:15 AM
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991 last pure anything? No.

Similar to CJ's list:

Latest/greatest 3rs
997 3RS (4.0>3.8>3.6)
964rs/993rs
Early 911 (longhood)
CGT, if filling the super car bucket

I skip the g body 74-89 (rather drive a LH and 996 (997 is close enough).
Old 12-28-2018, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fxz
992 4S Vs 991.2 4S
difference is 65Kg not 55

992 2S Curb weight PDK 3,382 lb
991.2 2S Curb weight PDK 3,219 lb
difference is 163 lb that is 74 Kg

new 992.1 2S 3,382 lb Vs
991.1 2S
3120lb
difference is 262 lb that is 119Kg !

worth to note that 991.1 2S PDK is 88 lb that is 40 Kg lighter than previous 997.2 2S PDK

..And Porsche says that total weight of the 991.1 Carrera S with PDK (versus a comparably equipped 997) is about 88 lb. lighter, at 3120 lb.

so jumping from a 991.1 Carrers S to a 992 Carrera S you will get 262 lb 119 Kg weight which is not a small difference
AGREE- 262 lbs is a lot

But - it will be interesting if they will use more light weight material/parts on the 992 GT3 to minimize such a weight gain??. The problem is that Porsche thinks you can negate weight gain with more power( which I get) but you can only dress a pig so many ways
Old 12-28-2018, 09:45 AM
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They get heavier every gen; we keep buying them. 991 is a portly pig to 996/7; water pumpers are pigs to 993/964. Everything is a pig to early 911s. 911s are pigs to the 356.
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
That's what the 997 guys said about the 991, and so on, and so on....
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Old 12-28-2018, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
They get heavier every gen; we keep buying them. 991 is a portly pig to 996/7; water pumpers are pigs to 993/964. Everything is a pig to early 911s. 911s are pigs to the 356.
looks to be wrong

...and Porsche says that total weight of the 991.1 Carrera S with PDK (versus a comparably equipped 997) is about 88 lb. lighter, at 3120 lb.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
AGREE- 262 lbs is a lot

But - it will be interesting if they will use more light weight material/parts on the 992 GT3 to minimize such a weight gain??. The problem is that Porsche thinks you can negate weight gain with more power( which I get) but you can only dress a pig so many ways
Damn man, 262 lbs will be a task for the GT team to solve for ....will be interesting to say the least. Not sure a NA can overcome that HP to weight gain, but will be fun to watch.
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Nauseating thread.

There is only ONE pure Porsche, all the others are inferior and we should boycott until Porsche makes the car they secretly, REALLY want to make! Just like the 993 and 997 and now 991 homers boycotted and taught Porsche a serious lesson! #NotMyPorsche


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Originally Posted by Maverick787


Damn man, 262 lbs will be a task for the GT team to solve for ....will be interesting to say the least. Not sure a NA can overcome that HP to weight gain, but will be fun to watch.
I do not think just 25 HP( RS output) will do the trick. And 9500 red line would not get me that excited. 9000 is already a stretch because the gears are just a tad long so 9500 I think would be just too much.

They will certainly have some tricks up their sleeve.

I am done with the Porsche rat race so I am glad i can sit and enjoy it from the Gallery .
Old 12-28-2018, 10:23 AM
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It all went to sh*t when they switched to the long wheel base in ‘69.


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