Naturally-aspirated Porsche 911 GT3 to stay
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I would consider 4C and the new Alpine, but neither is available for Euro Delivery. With BMW’s 5% discount for ED (if you can find a dealer to honor it), it’s only $57k for the M2 Competition. And it’s also the only one of the 3 to offer a Manual (and 6 cylinders).
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Article is far from "conclusive". It is riddled with qualifiers.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
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Three Wheelin'
Or join me in a BRZ TS purchase
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Article is far from "conclusive". It is riddled with qualifiers.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
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ps: owned a F80 M3, now have a 4 cyl Giulia. I think the Giulia is a way better sports sedan, even with its measly 4 cyl engine.
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Whatever keeps those 991 GT3 values relatively down (so I can buy one) I am happy.
Seriously though I think for at least one more .1 generation they can still keep it atmospheric. Also have to remember it's more than sheer horsepower figures with these cars.
Seriously though I think for at least one more .1 generation they can still keep it atmospheric. Also have to remember it's more than sheer horsepower figures with these cars.
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I agree. Sensory and tactile have a major importance.
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I would only buy either of these cars as street toys not track times so 3 pedal is not a question, it’s required. Based on a performance to price ratio in the US it really only leaves the M2. What other ~$60k 3 pedal cars perform as well?
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Article is far from "conclusive". It is riddled with qualifiers.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
But even that only loses 25lbs, just a small fraction of the coming weight increase with the 992 body. Unless they do something more drastic, like retain the current 7 speed PDK which is another 25 lbs lighter than the new 8 speed PDK, this might be enough (with the expected 520 hp .2 RS engine) for the 992.1 GT3 to be slightly faster than the 991.2 GT3.
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Article is far from "conclusive". It is riddled with qualifiers.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
Time will tell.
The 992 S is 5 seconds faster than the 991.2S at the Ring despite it being heavier.
I can see the 992GT3 dropping more weight with the MT, CF fenders, lighter wheels and less carpeting, CF buckets. Power likely up to 520 hp for the GT3 and 540hp for the RS.
What is for sure certain is that PAG will not release new GT cars that are slower than their predecessors.
each gen has less feel
I now drive a 1973 mostly.
hahaha
not sure what BRZ TS differs from BRZ
I had a BRZ, what a utter POS
there is nothing right about that car, other than paper spec.
bc many ppl cannot drive.
bmw has not made a decent car for over 10 years. maybe even 15 years.
what part of M2 is good?
just b/c a car has a manual doesn't mean it's INVOLVING.
I drove 4C briefly and like it.