The dark side of PTS colors
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The dark side of PTS colors
boring winter time is usually spent on retrofitting my prefered hobby
you guessed that
it's my GT3
for eventual scratch i figured out to find a little touch up just in case,
i have a 2018 pts GT3 but i learnt is not easy
to buy the right formula
Wow what a nightmare,
first tried with ColornDrive website
very quick delivery nice product but the color is too dark , ok no problems just spent 40$
so i went to a local p dealer,
very gently they prepared a little bottle for free
but guess what? the color is not right
So i deep dive into Glasurit amazing world of
colors (and official Porsche color supplier)
and discovered for any color a dozen of different formulas (vipergreen )
you can t imagine the craziness to find for example
the right one, Line 22 90 56 year x y Step 1 2 3
That s why p dealer get mad when asked to repaint a Porsche?
but overall i noticed Porsche updated for almost all lstest PTS approvec colors on the 24 May 2017 the formula,
i guess is something to do with pollution
anyway if somebody on RL has any experience with
Glasurit would be nice to educate most of PTS fanatics
you guessed that
it's my GT3
for eventual scratch i figured out to find a little touch up just in case,
i have a 2018 pts GT3 but i learnt is not easy
to buy the right formula
Wow what a nightmare,
first tried with ColornDrive website
very quick delivery nice product but the color is too dark , ok no problems just spent 40$
so i went to a local p dealer,
very gently they prepared a little bottle for free
but guess what? the color is not right
So i deep dive into Glasurit amazing world of
colors (and official Porsche color supplier)
and discovered for any color a dozen of different formulas (vipergreen )
you can t imagine the craziness to find for example
the right one, Line 22 90 56 year x y Step 1 2 3
That s why p dealer get mad when asked to repaint a Porsche?
but overall i noticed Porsche updated for almost all lstest PTS approvec colors on the 24 May 2017 the formula,
i guess is something to do with pollution
anyway if somebody on RL has any experience with
Glasurit would be nice to educate most of PTS fanatics
Last edited by fxz; 11-22-2018 at 04:40 AM.
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Not sure where you are but Wesco Auto Paint stores in the USA PNW have an optical sensing device, they scan your paint and come up with a code. Other shops across the country must have this technology.
Applying touch up paint with a brush on the same paint that was sprayed on the car will yield different results
Applying touch up paint with a brush on the same paint that was sprayed on the car will yield different results
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Not sure where you are but Wesco Auto Paint stores in the USA PNW have an optical sensing device, they scan your paint and come up with a code. Other shops across the country must have this technology.
Applying touch up paint with a brush on the same paint that was sprayed on the car will yield different results
Applying touch up paint with a brush on the same paint that was sprayed on the car will yield different results
so the only way to have 100% matching color is to get the exact formula and then find s good painter,
One might think it is easy but here is the thread point, being a nightmare many paint shop including p dealers, rather than "wasting time" for days or weeks chasing a needle in an haystack , prefer
to use optical scanners and then apply a vanish technique following the same panel angle,
when you need to repaint your pts
door or hood i guess you expect to get a 100% matching color not a side of the car different than the other one,
but the way they work is like when dealing with
a sun faded car where no either the original formula is anymore applicable, so the outcome is 95% with scanners , ok you don t see the car from both side at once but this is not ok for not sunfades cars like a GT3 where with the exact color formula you can paint let s say the side skirts , lower mirror , or just need to touch up a bumper
going back to buy the right touch up/paint formula,
anyone can shed some lights on Glasurit/Porsche on modern porsche? i.e. Line22 Line 90 Line 55, clearcoat , may2017 etc.
Last edited by fxz; 11-22-2018 at 04:33 AM.
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I ordered touch up paint from https://www.expresspaint.com/
Car is not here yet so can't say how close it is, seems darker than in real life but can't judge color through the bottle. Was tough even entering the color in their system, had to go back to a classic model and select it that way (based on yr of production/model generation).
Car is not here yet so can't say how close it is, seems darker than in real life but can't judge color through the bottle. Was tough even entering the color in their system, had to go back to a classic model and select it that way (based on yr of production/model generation).
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You should be able to go to a paint supply company with the Porsche paint code and they should be able to make you a 1L sample. It looks like the Line 22 may be an older solvent based paint and Line 90 may be a newer eco friendlier mix. The paint company will tell you the difference. The table shows you the various tints and amounts to make the color.
https://coloronline.glasurit.com/index.php
https://coloronline.glasurit.com/index.php
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I ordered touch up paint from https://www.expresspaint.com/
Car is not here yet so can't say how close it is, seems darker than in real life but can't judge color through the bottle. Was tough even entering the color in their system, had to go back to a classic model and select it that way (based on yr of production/model generation).
Car is not here yet so can't say how close it is, seems darker than in real life but can't judge color through the bottle. Was tough even entering the color in their system, had to go back to a classic model and select it that way (based on yr of production/model generation).
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You should be able to go to a paint supply company with the Porsche paint code and they should be able to make you a 1L sample. It looks like the Line 22 may be an older solvent based paint and Line 90 may be a newer eco friendlier mix. The paint company will tell you the difference. The table shows you the various tints and amounts to make the color.
https://coloronline.glasurit.com/index.php
https://coloronline.glasurit.com/index.php
as guards red , vipergreen etc.
looks like Line22 have dozens of different formulas
and to make
things more funny most of them have been recently
updated,
so from that website no way to refer to car model year hence the confusion in getting the right formula
Btw I was told Line22 is better for touch up
because does not need for the clearcoat thus
no sanding polishing etc. whilst Line90 is matte and need clearcoat
Different online touch up distributor provide
without any clue one if the Line22 formulas
so thst s gambling
Last edited by fxz; 11-26-2018 at 03:27 AM.
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Ok did some research and found some interesting infos,
i was wondering why , when compared to old 911 993 etc,
current days solid colors offered by porsche looks washed out
(miami blue racing yellow red and orange etc.)
actually they don t look washed out!
They are intentionally washed out!!
In facts due pollution savings Porsche few years ago went from
solvent based paints to water based ones
This teach us a lesson to never look a color of the past as PTS guideline! Go to Atlanta or Stuttgart and see with your eyes!
just to give you an example i ordered a 2018 274 Olivegreen and after weeks of failed touch up doctors
or professors and including one porsche dealer
i finally found the color (the lighter in the center)
Notice how many shades of olivegreen, a quite rare color, go figure how many paint formulas with vipergreen or others
i was wondering why , when compared to old 911 993 etc,
current days solid colors offered by porsche looks washed out
(miami blue racing yellow red and orange etc.)
actually they don t look washed out!
They are intentionally washed out!!
In facts due pollution savings Porsche few years ago went from
solvent based paints to water based ones
This teach us a lesson to never look a color of the past as PTS guideline! Go to Atlanta or Stuttgart and see with your eyes!
just to give you an example i ordered a 2018 274 Olivegreen and after weeks of failed touch up doctors
or professors and including one porsche dealer
i finally found the color (the lighter in the center)
Notice how many shades of olivegreen, a quite rare color, go figure how many paint formulas with vipergreen or others
Last edited by fxz; 12-05-2018 at 05:52 PM.
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For the $13k price of admission, Porsche might have included a bottle of touch up paint for PTS customers. It would probably cost Porsche 25 cents.
Another opportunity lost to curry favor with its customers.
Another opportunity lost to curry favor with its customers.
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that's a nice thought. i think Porsche realizes that they don't need to curry any favor with us, we'll keep coming back no matter what. proof in the pudding was the huge price hike to $12,800 for PTS and it didn't reduce PTS demand even a scintilla. but yeah, would't have killed them to include a bottle of touch up PTS paint!
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Ok did some research and found some interesting infos,
i was wondering why , when compared to old 911 993 etc,
current days solid colors offered by porsche looks washed out
(miami blue racing yellow red and orange etc.)
actually they don t look washed out!
They are intentionally washed out!!
In facts due pollution savings Porsche few years ago went from
solvent based paints to water based ones
This teach us a lesson to never look a color of the past as PTS guideline! Go to Atlanta or Stuttgart and see with your eyes!
just to give you an example i ordered a 2018 274 Olivegreen and after weeks of failed touch up doctors
or professors and including one porsche dealer
i finally found the color
i was wondering why , when compared to old 911 993 etc,
current days solid colors offered by porsche looks washed out
(miami blue racing yellow red and orange etc.)
actually they don t look washed out!
They are intentionally washed out!!
In facts due pollution savings Porsche few years ago went from
solvent based paints to water based ones
This teach us a lesson to never look a color of the past as PTS guideline! Go to Atlanta or Stuttgart and see with your eyes!
just to give you an example i ordered a 2018 274 Olivegreen and after weeks of failed touch up doctors
or professors and including one porsche dealer
i finally found the color