Yet another "buying out of state and now no title in sight after xyz days" dilemma...
#16
Drifting
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...sts/outofstate
Per DMV website need out of state title or registration (I have neither).
How do you show proof of ownership without a title?
Per DMV website need out of state title or registration (I have neither).
How do you show proof of ownership without a title?
EDIT:
Wait this is a used car? Might be different in that case. Used car should have a title. It's been registered already. This sounds like a slightly different scenario...
#17
I bought my GT3 new from NY and destination (unfortunately in this case) was CA. Took me quite awhile to get my title and reg done between miscues from the dealership and third party service that they use to handle out of state title & reg, issues with my VIN verification, etc. Stayed on top of my SA and eventually got everything done. My advice would be to keep pressure on and start exploring other avenues to light the fire under their a$$e$ while still realizing it can take a bit of time. They also over charged me for my sales tax & registration (which conveniently no one caught but me) and so I was due a refund of nearly $2k which I just received FWIW. Make sure all the numbers add up correctly from both the DMV side and what you paid the dealer
I did get a physical CA title mailed to me (not electronic) as well as my reg
I did get a physical CA title mailed to me (not electronic) as well as my reg
#18
Instructor
Thread Starter
Do you see my avatar? That's a 2018 GT3. I bought it a few months ago from an out-of-state dealer. I went through this process. You don't need the title. Just go to the DMV and do VIN verification. Show them whatever paperwork you have from the dealer (wire transfer receipt, sales contract, etc.). That's all you need. The dealer will do the registration for you and then title arrives in the mail after you get your plates.
EDIT:
Wait this is a used car? Might be different in that case. Used car should have a title. It's been registered already. This sounds like a slightly different scenario...
EDIT:
Wait this is a used car? Might be different in that case. Used car should have a title. It's been registered already. This sounds like a slightly different scenario...
I bought my GT3 new from NY and destination (unfortunately in this case) was CA. Took me quite awhile to get my title and reg done between miscues from the dealership and third party service that they use to handle out of state title & reg, issues with my VIN verification, etc. Stayed on top of my SA and eventually got everything done. My advice would be to keep pressure on and start exploring other avenues to light the fire under their a$$e$ while still realizing it can take a bit of time. They also over charged me for my sales tax & registration (which conveniently no one caught but me) and so I was due a refund of nearly $2k which I just received FWIW. Make sure all the numbers add up correctly from both the DMV side and what you paid the dealer
I did get a physical CA title mailed to me (not electronic) as well as my reg
I did get a physical CA title mailed to me (not electronic) as well as my reg
#19
Instructor
Thread Starter
#20
Drifting
VIN verification is the same either way. It really only took me 5 minutes. You don't even have to leave your car. Just pull up, someone comes out to you, they look at your VIN number, and hand you a piece of paper. That's it. No appointment needed. This was at very busy DMV as well. People were lined up out the door and through the parking lot. But nobody waiting for VIN verification.
#22
Drifting
What's the rush for plates/registration anyway? Takes 3 months to get plates... so what?
#23
if you live in an area with a very busy DMV and you are a AAA customer, you can go to one of their branches that offer DMV service and have them do VIN verification as well. For me, i chose to do that because even with axle lift, the entrance to the DMV was going to be a challenge.
#24
Per Ohio state law the used car dealer has up to 40 days after purchase to deliver the title, if dealer fails to do so on or before 40th day the customer is entitled to get a full refund and the state attorney general will deal with the dealer. It's been more than 40 days.
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/...-Recision-Fund
I do love the car and I'm trying to be patient. But the fact the dealer keeps telling me another xyz days and the story (in my opinion) keeps changing is starting to really irritate me. I've written glowing 5 star reviews for the dealer and my salesperson up to now but man, I'm starting to feel being jerked around.
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/...-Recision-Fund
I do love the car and I'm trying to be patient. But the fact the dealer keeps telling me another xyz days and the story (in my opinion) keeps changing is starting to really irritate me. I've written glowing 5 star reviews for the dealer and my salesperson up to now but man, I'm starting to feel being jerked around.
#25
#26
Instructor
Thread Starter
if you live in an area with a very busy DMV and you are a AAA customer, you can go to one of their branches that offer DMV service and have them do VIN verification as well. For me, i chose to do that because even with axle lift, the entrance to the DMV was going to be a challenge.
Also just being told different stories and timeline continuously, after paid in full of course. If they said up front oh we don't actually have the title and it'll take 3 months would that be OK, then I would have no beef here.
#28
Drifting
#29
Instructor
hmmm...i bought out of state unseen several times in CA. Generally it's very quick to receive the title if you pay in full, I usually got it within days after the fund clearing. In fact I usually get the title before the car gets delivered. Even if it's a consignment car, the dealer will send me a signed off title from the previous owner and I just take it to DMV to register. It's not common for you to pay taxes in Ohio, unless you are financing or doing leases (and even then, you are not paying Ohio taxes, you are paying CA taxes when the lender include that into your loan). You should pay taxes in CA here when you register the car with the bill of sale or purchase order, together with a smog and VIN verification.
I dont think a big dealer would do anything illegal such as pocketing your taxes when in fact they have no need to pay taxes on your behalf...but something to watch out for.
If for some strange reason you already paid taxes in Ohio, then your registration in CA involves another step, which is talking to state franchise board for a tax clearance to pay for the difference of taxes paid in Ohio vs CA...that's usually 2 weeks and you have to submit documents over. The DMV will hold your application until they get that clearance
One time I did get a title 3 months late. And that was with a local CA dealer on a consignment car, which they set up as a lease for me but I paid it off the next day. But it didnt bother me as much since I am already registered with DMV etc., and the delay is probably caused by the previous owner sending the title slow or holding off on paying off the car etc.
I dont think a big dealer would do anything illegal such as pocketing your taxes when in fact they have no need to pay taxes on your behalf...but something to watch out for.
If for some strange reason you already paid taxes in Ohio, then your registration in CA involves another step, which is talking to state franchise board for a tax clearance to pay for the difference of taxes paid in Ohio vs CA...that's usually 2 weeks and you have to submit documents over. The DMV will hold your application until they get that clearance
One time I did get a title 3 months late. And that was with a local CA dealer on a consignment car, which they set up as a lease for me but I paid it off the next day. But it didnt bother me as much since I am already registered with DMV etc., and the delay is probably caused by the previous owner sending the title slow or holding off on paying off the car etc.
#30
Actually, legally you can't. His car is not registered in California, nor has the registration even been applied for yet. You probably had the dealer file the registration paperwork in time and give you a temp registration at purchase. He does not have a valid CA temp registration. In CA, until you file the registration forms with the smog certificate and VIN verification form, you only have 20 days from the point the car enters the State to legally drive it here. Otherwise you're just driving around in an unregistered car and, when you do go to register it, you pay penalties. Plus you risk being ticketed for driving without a registration.