2018 GT3 vs 2019 GT3 on track- actively updating
11-02-2018, 11:26 AM
#32
Rennlist Member
Good info and insight on the 4 cars. Might as well declare the GT3 manual the winner. It was only one second off the fastest time and you had to drive a manual transmission compared to the others.
11-02-2018, 11:45 AM
#34
I'm here to explain that there is a negligible difference between the two cars- I drove them on the same day. Granted it was the first time I'd driven either of them but I've been tracking 997's and 991's a ton and have been tracking my manual GTS all year at Laguna Seca.
Great thread, looking forward to more.
Last edited by WernerE; 11-02-2018 at 12:05 PM.
11-02-2018, 12:05 PM
#35
Race Director
Finally a real value thread. 
11-02-2018, 12:10 PM
#36
Race Director
C.J. can you explain more about the PCCBs? We always hear people claiming they are not worth it, so why do you like them and what differences vs the iron did you notice?
11-02-2018, 12:46 PM
#39
Race Director
I do not track but love the feel and bite thy have. I took the plunge from my .1 GT3 that had the irons to my GT4 that I got PCCB and I told all I was going to give them a try because I had some good coin left over from the trade.
Hence- I ordered my .2 GT3 with PCCBs- that should say how i feel
11-02-2018, 12:48 PM
#40
Nordschleife Master
Right well like I explained- this was literally a total of 6-7 straight laps per car. Then wait 45 mins and plop into different car. That's it. No second session, no tire pressure adjustment.
I can easily go faster just by pushing harder into T1 but wanted to survive the day in all the cars to see how big of a difference between the 2018 Gt3 and the 2019 RS exists in reality vs market fluff.
I'm here to explain that there is a negligible difference between the two cars- I drove them on the same day. Granted it was the first time I'd driven either of them but I've been tracking 997's and 991's a ton and have been tracking my manual GTS all year at Laguna Seca.
Did I get the most from them? No.
Did track temps and grip swing? Yes.
Did Rich/Neo putting 100 OCT help his car? No idea.
If you have driven Sonoma before/ it's a lot like COTA where the track is totally different at different times of day. The track itself slows down a lot. Buttonwillow is similar - very greasy in some corners.
I can easily go faster just by pushing harder into T1 but wanted to survive the day in all the cars to see how big of a difference between the 2018 Gt3 and the 2019 RS exists in reality vs market fluff.
I'm here to explain that there is a negligible difference between the two cars- I drove them on the same day. Granted it was the first time I'd driven either of them but I've been tracking 997's and 991's a ton and have been tracking my manual GTS all year at Laguna Seca.
Did I get the most from them? No.
Did track temps and grip swing? Yes.
Did Rich/Neo putting 100 OCT help his car? No idea.
If you have driven Sonoma before/ it's a lot like COTA where the track is totally different at different times of day. The track itself slows down a lot. Buttonwillow is similar - very greasy in some corners.
I'm confused. I gave you two 'mortals' driving the same track with similar abilities one manual and one PDK, and you blow it off as conjecture. Randy does the test and the cars are only 0.2 seconds apart and you blow it off as not reality. What are you looking for?
11-02-2018, 01:00 PM
#41
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It does not take any unusual skill to drive the Manual when using the Rev Match and No-Lift features. Takes a bit more if you do it on your own. The point is, any mere mortal with average skill will be about as fast in Manual as PDK when using the systems and if not using the systems you need to be better than average to keep up. Is there a chance that someone could botch a shift in Manual? Sure...
Last edited by GrantG; 11-02-2018 at 01:34 PM.
11-02-2018, 01:08 PM
#42
Nordschleife Master
It does not take any unusual skill to drive the Manual when using the Rev Match and No-Lift features. Takes a bit more if you do it on your own. The point is, any mere mortal with average skill will be about as fast in Manual as PDK when using the systems and if not using the systems you need to be better than average to keep up. Is there a chance that somewhat could botch a shift in Manual? Sure...
