GA coming after MT plate owners
10-25-2018, 07:45 PM
#46
Rennlist Member
^ While I agree completely with AC SATCO on the legality and morality of this, I don't get the whole insurance issue with this scam. No insurance company I have ever used has had any way of knowing where my cars are registered; they do not require copies of registration or title. Nor should they care. The policy is based on my drivers license, the VIN, and where the car is garaged (which needs explanation if it is not the address on the license). And the insurance card does not have an address, so a LEO would not know it is insured in a different state from where it is registered.
10-25-2018, 07:50 PM
#47
Race Director
Who really cares less if some one figured out a way not to pay taxes. Heck- any angle I can find legally I will until proven illegal. Many here own busineses that exercise their right every year how to avoid paying too much in taxes. I am surprised by so many upset with people with Montana registrations. Heck - quite a few people setting up trust funds in other States to avoid Trump raxes. That must be illegal too. But- as stated from another- I do not buy these people are causing you to pay too much in taxes!!
" Do not hate the Player but the game"
" Do not hate the Player but the game"
10-25-2018, 07:51 PM
#48
Drifting
The state lets you use your home address. My friends overland. They drive around North America, living in their off-road rig. Their legal address is like Kentucky or something. But their truck is registered and insured out of North Dakota because the state allows you to use an out-of-state address.
10-25-2018, 07:52 PM
#49
Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
^ While I agree completely with AC SATCO on the legality and morality of this, I don't get the whole insurance issue with this scam. No insurance company I have ever used has had any way of knowing where my cars are registered; they do not require copies of registration or title. Nor should they care. The policy is based on my drivers license, the VIN, and where the car is garaged (which needs explanation if it is not the address on the license). And the insurance card does not have an address, so a LEO would not know it is insured in a different state from where it is registered.
You have Drivers License in State X
Insurance in State X
But
Registration in State Z
Don't have to be a detective to piece this together.
If an insurance claim arise, I would be very concerned about having the above scenario.
I have asked several insurance companies about registration being different than license/garage location.
Would love to hear which insurance companies will ensure declaring the above
10-25-2018, 07:55 PM
#50
Race Director
Stopped by Law Enforcement
You have Drivers License in State X
Insurance in State X
But
Registration in State Z
Don't have to be a detective to piece this together.
If an insurance claim arise, I would be very concerned about having the above scenario.
I have asked several installer companies about registration being different than license/garage location.
Would love to hear which insurance companies will ensure declaring the above
You have Drivers License in State X
Insurance in State X
But
Registration in State Z
Don't have to be a detective to piece this together.
If an insurance claim arise, I would be very concerned about having the above scenario.
I have asked several installer companies about registration being different than license/garage location.
Would love to hear which insurance companies will ensure declaring the above
Insurance travels
10-25-2018, 08:00 PM
#51
Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
I am assuming you have car nsurance that travels when you rent another car in amother State for a period of time.
But
Most of not all States have a Statute by Law you must register in the State after 30 days.
My main concern would be should a claim arise, could the insurance company deny your claim. I'm with liberty mutual, great company. They will not write a policy where the driver license is in a different State as registration. Underwriters pull an insurance report similarity to a credit report, they know.
10-25-2018, 08:06 PM
#52
Originally Posted by FourT6and2
The state lets you use your home address. My friends overland. They drive around North America, living in their off-road rig. Their legal address is like Kentucky or something. But their truck is registered and insured out of North Dakota because the state allows you to use an out-of-state address.
The issue is "your State may prohibit registration in another State"
10-25-2018, 08:07 PM
#53
Rennlist Member
Stopped by Law Enforcement
You have Drivers License in State X
Insurance in State X
But
Registration in State Z
Don't have to be a detective to piece this together.
If an insurance claim arise, I would be very concerned about having the above scenario.
I have asked several insurance companies about registration being different than license/garage location.
Would love to hear which insurance companies will ensure declaring the above
You have Drivers License in State X
Insurance in State X
But
Registration in State Z
Don't have to be a detective to piece this together.
If an insurance claim arise, I would be very concerned about having the above scenario.
I have asked several insurance companies about registration being different than license/garage location.
Would love to hear which insurance companies will ensure declaring the above
Insurance ID cards do not show registration address.
As I said, there is no declaration of registration state when insuring a car. If the car is correctly insured where it is garaged and used in State X, why should there be any claim issues if it has State Z plates on it instead of State X plates? Insurance companies have no skin in this game.
Now if you are engaging in insurance fraud as well as tax fraud and have it insured in State Z but it is garaged and used in State X, that is a different story.
10-25-2018, 08:08 PM
#54
Rennlist Member
I don't run montana plates on ANY car nor have I ever, but for high dollar collector cars that don't really see the road almost ever, having to pay full freight on oneis sucky. If you drive it on the road and actually use it, then you should definitely pay up. Overall better off getting a dealer license and just doing what you need to do to qualify. Easy no, totally legal and something upstanding, yes.
10-25-2018, 08:23 PM
#55
Yes
But
Most of not all States have a Statute by Law you must register in the State after 30 days.
My main concern would be should a claim arise, could the insurance company deny your claim. I'm with liberty mutual, great company. They will not write a policy where the driver license is in a different State as registration. Underwriters pull an insurance report similarity to a credit report, they know.
But
Most of not all States have a Statute by Law you must register in the State after 30 days.
My main concern would be should a claim arise, could the insurance company deny your claim. I'm with liberty mutual, great company. They will not write a policy where the driver license is in a different State as registration. Underwriters pull an insurance report similarity to a credit report, they know.
10-25-2018, 08:30 PM
#56
Originally Posted by Maverick787
that’s partially true. If I use my car in NY for 35 days for whatever reason and send it back to GA for the rest of the year how do I register in two states? I have a GA license and places in two states? Can’t register in both and the 30 days applies to individuals that have a primary in that state. It’s legal I’ve done it for 7 years, and there is a legal paper trail. It’s no tax benefit unless I had a place in Montana I could take advantage of the law.
Seems GA is serious about this and will stop at nothing less than full compliance.
10-25-2018, 08:35 PM
#57
With the State of Georgia executing search warrants, the investigation will reveal where your true residency is. Voting records are accessible to investigators just illustrating one piece of evidence. It's all good if your driver license, insurance, registration all match, along with other paper trails, income tax return address and voting records.
Seems GA is serious about this and will stop at nothing less than full compliance.
Seems GA is serious about this and will stop at nothing less than full compliance.
10-25-2018, 08:35 PM
#58
I don't run montana plates on ANY car nor have I ever, but for high dollar collector cars that don't really see the road almost ever, having to pay full freight on oneis sucky. If you drive it on the road and actually use it, then you should definitely pay up. Overall better off getting a dealer license and just doing what you need to do to qualify. Easy no, totally legal and something upstanding, yes.
so it's like art work.
just sits in your collection.
dealer tag in Pennsylvania it's very tough not a easy task....trust me I looked into it.
10-25-2018, 08:45 PM
#59
Word around the campfire is they are hiring more revenue officers in Atlanta. As a defense lawyer, IMO it’s an indefensible position in a local city or county court, to have residency here more than 30 days and have your 300k elephant in the courtroom.
It it may be a winner on appeal after judgement based on interpretation of LLC in another state. At a minimum, you would have to show more than a LLC created in said tax free state. Maybe an office, mail address, bank account apt etc.
It it may be a winner on appeal after judgement based on interpretation of LLC in another state. At a minimum, you would have to show more than a LLC created in said tax free state. Maybe an office, mail address, bank account apt etc.
10-25-2018, 08:50 PM
#60
Yup and they are trolling C.C. events taking plate numbers. My buddy was tipped off last year.