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Old 09-23-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Why do you keep on harping on why the .2 GT3RS pushed in the background??. One can argue why the .2 GT3 is not represented. From what many are conveying is that the.2 GT3RS feels no faster than the .2 GT3. Same freakin engine. Now it comes down to which car one thinks is prettier. Do not even know if the .2 GT3 RS is even faster than the .2 GT3 on some tracks.

"A GT3 is a GT3"
I "harp" good don't I???? LOL.

That's what I do.

Its because this is an "RS" thing here Jimmy. Come on dude!
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A 2 RS is THE RS.....
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A 488 pista is a 488 pista...
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A GT3RS is a GT3RS.

and?????
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Why do you keep on harping on why the .2 GT3RS pushed in the background??. One can argue why the .2 GT3 is not represented. From what many are conveying is that the.2 GT3RS feels no faster than the .2 GT3. Same freakin engine. Now it comes down to which car one thinks is prettier. Do not even know if the .2 GT3 RS is even faster than the .2 GT3 on some tracks.

"A GT3 is a GT3"
The .2 RS is faster..

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In the 2018 motor trend drag race 720S is fastest to 1/4 and 1/2 mile in supercar drag race....GT2 has faster trap times and bad start is mentioned...only a tick
Or two behind...the winning 720S....
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Originally Posted by abiazis
A 2 RS is THE
2RS.....
Fixed.

Old 09-23-2018, 11:46 PM
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Lots of small penises in this thread.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Lots of small penises in this thread.
Agreed. Seems they all find their way here. Welcome to the fray.

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For those of you that think the Senna will take this home, I have NEW INFO from R&T:

Fast Facts About the Eight Contenders for Road & Track's 2019 Performance Car of the Year

Next week, we're bringing eight wildly different performance cars together for testing on the road and track. Only one can be the winner

ROAD & TRACKNext week, the Road & Track staff heads to Kentucky to conduct our 2019 Performance Car of the Year testing. We'll be bringing eight of the hottest performance machines the industry has to offer, all of them brand-new or considerably revised this year. And the Class of 2019 might just be the most wide-ranging in the history of PCOTY.


One of These Eight Cars Will Be Our 2019 PCOTYTo refresh your memory, the eight competitors this year are:
  • Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio
  • Audi RS5
  • BMW M5 Competition
  • Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
  • Ferrari 488 Pista
  • McLaren Senna
  • Mercedes-AMG E63 S Wagon
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS
Ahead of our week of road and track testing, we took a little look at the facts and figures on these eight competitors. Here's some fun facts for you:
  • The Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio is the first utility vehicle to compete in PCOTY. If you've read our review from earlier this year, you'll understand why: It's razor sharp and rewarding on the road in a way that outstrips any other performance SUV.
  • The Mercedes-AMG E63 S is not the first station wagon to join our competition. An earlier version of the Mercedes ultra-wagon competed in our inaugural PCOTY test, conducted in 2013.
  • The most expensive vehicle in our test is, naturally, the McLaren Senna, with a price that basically rounds out to $1 million. The least expensive competitor? The Audi RS5, with a base price of $70,000.
  • The Senna also takes the cake for highest horsepower, with 789. The lowest horsepower rating? Once again, the Audi RS5, with a mere 444.
  • But when it comes to torque, the Corvette ZR1 trounces everything with a whopping 715 lb-ft. The least torque-ful of our competitors? It's a tie between the Stelvio Quadrifoglio and the RS5, each bringing 443 lb-ft to the party.
  • Going by manufacturer-reported acceleration times, the 911 GT2 RS is the quickest to 60 mph, at just 2.7 seconds. Both the Senna and the 488 Pista have factory-claimed 0-60 times of 2.8 seconds; we suspect these are conservative estimates. The Stelvio at 3.7 seconds and the RS5 at 3.8 are the slowest sprinters.
  • The highest top speed goes to the Corvette ZR1, at 212 mph. Senna and Pista aren't far behind at 211 mph, followed by the 210-mph 911 GT2 RS. Once again, the 176-mph Stelvio and 174-mph RS5 bring up the rear.
  • The largest engine in the competition is, of course, the supercharged 6.2-liter V8 in the Corvette ZR1. It's also the only competitor that isn't sporting twin turbos. The smallest engines? You guessed it: Stelvio and RS5, each with a 2.9-liter twin-turbo V6. Take away the 'Vette, and the largest engine is the 4.4-liter twin-turbo V8 in the BMW M5 Competition, followed by the 4.0-liters in the McLaren and E63 S.
  • Among the eight cars in our test, there are five V8s, two V6s, and one flat-six. Bet you can guess which car that belongs to.
  • For the first time in PCOTY history, there is not a single competitor with a manual transmission. The Corvette ZR1 is available with a seven-speed stick, but the example provided to us by General Motors has the automatic.
That last point may make some readers (and R&T staffers) groan, but it highlights a big reason why we do this annual test: To survey the state of high-performance cars on an annual basis. Our world isn't just about two-door sports cars anymore, and this test will help us understand what that means for driving enjoyment.

And that's why this test is about more than just lap times. Sure, running a bunch of cars around a race track is a great way to get concrete information about which is quickest, but fast doesn't necessarily mean fun. These things still have to function like real cars, and we intend to test that.

Will the Senna reign supreme? Will Pista give it a run for its money? Will the ZR1 thunder its way ahead of the competition? Will we decide that the best performance car this year is a four-door sedan, a station wagon, or—gasp—a crossover? Stay tuned. We can't wait to find out and tell you all about it.
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Originally Posted by Waxer

I fell in love with the Performante' at the track a few weeks back when someone showed up with one. Love it! Wow. Was even thinking of selling my '05 FGT for one. Have to sleep on that one though.
I wouldn't do that trade

I think the FGT is a keeper.
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Potential Demo Videos

GT2RS @ NMC motorsport park west

1:31.17 (Damp) potentially Cup2 R

488 Pista @ NCM Motorsport park west
1:32.5 (Damp)

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Old 10-06-2018, 10:46 PM
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Drove the Performante yesterday. Meh.
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Originally Posted by kyrocks


Sorry I offended you. It didn’t wow me. Feels big and heavy. Awkward seating position. Numb AWD (but fast). Better than my previous Huracan. Cool display and aero and ok sound.
I love all cars, not just a GT3. Sorry for sharing my opinion. I would NOT spend $300k on a Performante. Don’t cry.
OK sound?? Hmmm......Something was clearly defective in your test sample....or you.


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