GT car / Salesman - Shiraaz Sookralli - Champion Porsche's VP of Marketing
#166
For all those folks that did get lucky enough to get a GT car after they paid a deposit to Champion Autosport, I would love to learn how the transaction was completed to purchase the car through Champion. This is where I think the dealership had some kind of insight as to what he was doing. They put too much trust in this rogue employee with a lack of controls and now it's come back to bite them in the behind.
#167
Finally, hopefully the games can slowly come to an end.
#168
For all those folks that did get lucky enough to get a GT car after they paid a deposit to Champion Autosport, I would love to learn how the transaction was completed to purchase the car through Champion. This is where I think the dealership had some kind of insight as to what he was doing. They put too much trust in this rogue employee with a lack of controls and now it's come back to bite them in the behind.
#169
Three Wheelin'
This really makes my spine CHILL. I have friends wiling to pay ADM for brokers, even dealers from out of state we barely know for hard to get GT cars and limited ones. Pretty SCARY.
Please be very careful moving forward when buying cars!
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Please be very careful moving forward when buying cars!
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Great point - I know of one broker who asked me about buying a spot from Champion for a 3RS for $50k. I wonder how far this will reach for those brokers that took their cut, and the Champion funds went into the "Champion Autosports" account.
Does this now mean it will spread back into those brokers who sold spots and were also ignorant to the fact this was all a shell?
Does this now mean it will spread back into those brokers who sold spots and were also ignorant to the fact this was all a shell?
#170
Three Wheelin'
This. Did the purchase order at time of signing with finance show the 25-100k deposit. Im betting it did. And when it does, how did the company bean counters not see the lack of funds on all these ADM deals. Pretty clear why it was hard to break into their GT car pool.
#171
#173
Addict
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Sorry for the trouble/loss anyone experienced. Fortunately, I have never been asked for more than $1,000 deposit and I always use credit card (can make a quick fraud claim if necessary).
#174
You're assuming that the entirety of this fraud involved 25-30 people writing checks that averaged about $100k each, every single one to this fake account, and none of which involved any information produced by the dealership to the customers and no communication at all between the dealership and any of those victims. I find that hard to believe. Do you think there were likely zero inquiries directly to the dealership from those customers/victims prior to this guy disappearing? Very unlikely.
#175
Is it possible maybe he was doing it legit for awhile through this shell company so no one noticed, and now that there are the big money cars of 2rs and somewhat 3rs decided to fabricate 25 spots and bail in the time before production ?
#176
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You need to read this entire thread. Not Champion Porsche but one of their long term employees...
#177
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by 1990ruf
I feel their pain. Trying to be helpful. He's my attorney and know his capabilities...
Just leave the damn lawyers as last resort! I swear America is the most litigious country in the World : I can be sued for farting on public property.
Anyway,just my 2c...
#178
Rennlist Member
Bingo... coincidentally the GT3RS & GT2RS cars have begun arriving in August or prior right...I presume this situation reared its head in August.
#179
Three Wheelin'
Climate was ripe for this type of scam and it occurred where there was enough volume of business and historic trust in performance to pull it off. Victims of this guy cannot be faulted, this was not a Nigerian "send me money" scam, but a legitimate well established business used as a front by a con man.
#180
1. This is criminal. Ive had people put in Jail for stealing my deposits. And have sued many in the auto business for slimy stuff. NEVER LOST a cent including attorney fees.
2. Champion Liability: Vicarious liability, Negligent supervision and more...
To Victims. Call Alan. He's great at this type of situation. He's only 2hrs from Champion. Federal case.
3. Not trying to be a :shill: Just being helpful.