we should head to fresno together one day.
cj tells me great Indian food there.
and I need to drive his 993RS and a few mac's ;-)

Definitely! Maybe take the CGT's down. Word is he has some good back roads he's found. Plus only an hour drive (at a normal speed - not mooty speed) to Yosemite.

As loyal as they are to me. Its a mutual relationship, as all relationships should be

Gee, Thanks Mooty...... :bigbye:

My experience with the local Porsche dealer has been outstanding. There is no question that certain allocations, such as the GT2RS, will go to the VIP list of customers, but they have been very forthcoming about what they can do, and they delivered their only mid-year allocation to me for a 2019 911 Carrera GTS C2. It will be built late next week and ship in early October. They received a non-allocated GT2RS and sold it to a walk in customer on the spot, who also snagged a GT3 at the same time. I could have snagged a GT3 earlier in the year, but my preference is the 911 GTS C2 with AWS as I will rarely track the car and spend my time driving the country roads.

In these parts it appears that whomever offers the best financial deal to the dealer is who gets the car. As a primary requirement. I'm sure there is some value placed on relationship, individual, long term prospects etc. I think those are all secondary and down. Financial deal meaning overall spend at the dealer (trades, new, used, parts, service, labour, paid dealer events, sponsorships etc). Big dealers already have too many good customers and not enough allocations. So makes it hard to get an allocation for the average buyer who has a GT trade, unless you some how get through a crack.

Yeh but my Dealer always has a hottie preparing my Latte :p

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I am seeking to purchase a CPO Porsche. I have some specific options I prefer. I will not say the dealer by name, but I always try my local dealer (12 miles from my house) to start. I believe in buying local, so I make it a point to give them the first shot. If that doesn't work out, then I spam every dealer within 250 miles with an email of what I am looking for. I'm not unreasonable. The non-local dealers I have approached in the past have jumped all over my offer when the right car shows up, as my last two Porsche purchases, and a BMW purchase were done elsewhere.

(The local dealer's service shop side of things is excellent through).

For the local dealer, the complaints I have are:

1. Not returning calls or emails. In fact, i have not received one email other than some automated thing about my first visit.
2. Failing to contact me when a specific car shows up in inventory. Not once have they ever called to let me know they were about to get something in either. I really have to stay diligent about checking what they have. This has happened for years.
3. Not knowing what they had in inventory, or inventory not accurate - this is strange and common, even going back a few years. Inventory online is never up to date, or cars just mysteriously drop off then show up again. I've walked around the lot with a sales guy trying to find a specific car listed online.
4. Refusing to give me an appraisal value (even a ball park guess) over the phone on one of my current cars. I bought the car from them to begin with, they have serviced it for the last 40k miles.

All in all, the local place has just become difficult to work with. Unless your buying a GT3 or a Turbo, they don't give you much more than the time of day. There is turnover there, as each time I visit, there seems to be more different people there.

Conversely, sales people from two other dealers, both more than a 4 hours drive away, have contacted me at least once a week now for over a month. Either to let me know what's coming in, or seeing if I am still in the market. Both have already given me trade values after seeing one pic. One said he pulled up my service history in the data base. And my local dealer can't do the same?????

I don't expect them to kiss up to me, I actually dont want that type of attention. I would like to be loyal only because they are local, but there is just not any real "sales service" from them anymore.




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^^ Your local dealer sounds exactly like mine

Closest dealer is I think the last dealer near me still selling based on place in line at MSRP. I use them for service and placed a deposit on a car I'll probably never see (long line ahead of me). I respect them for doing that and hope they keep the policy in place. If they do, I will always try and buy from them first.

2nd local dealer I purchased 2 cars from to establish a relationship became a "goes to the highest paying ADM bidder" dealer so won't use any longer.

Loyalty as others have said is a two way street.