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Originally Posted by BryanCO
(Post 15243735)
:thumbup: Great day for a drive today in CO. :) |
For those with extensive experience of the 4.0, does it deliver its magic out of the box or does it need suspension and exhaust enhancements to really reach its zenith? I have found the 3.6 and 3.8 variants good but underwhelming as standard but with enhancements to exhaust and suspension they all turned into semi race cars. |
Originally Posted by Mika911
For those with extensive experience of the 4.0, does it deliver its magic out of the box or does it need suspension and exhaust enhancements to really reach its zenith? I have found the 3.6 and 3.8 variants good but underwhelming as standard but with enhancements to exhaust and suspension they all turned into semi race cars. |
Here's another question. Let's say in the $325-425k range. 997.2 4.0 or a 911 R? I ask because I have seen some 4.0's that will take $400-425 (I'm hearing even lower in some cases). Maybe not a fair comparison since there is probably $75-100k difference, but which one would you add if you only could add one? Would love to hear from guys who have either owned both or driven both. TIA
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Originally Posted by Mika911
(Post 15243861)
For those with extensive experience of the 4.0, does it deliver its magic out of the box or does it need suspension and exhaust enhancements to really reach its zenith? I have found the 3.6 and 3.8 variants good but underwhelming as standard but with enhancements to exhaust and suspension they all turned into semi race cars. then i had 2 cup cars and 1 CS. i no longer mod cars. not even exhaust. b/c no matter what u do, they are not comparable to factory all out race cars. not EVEN REMOTELY close.
Originally Posted by joejenie
(Post 15248124)
Here's another question. Let's say in the $325-425k range. 997.2 4.0 or a 911 R? I ask because I have seen some 4.0's that will take $400-425 (I'm hearing even lower in some cases). Maybe not a fair comparison since there is probably $75-100k difference, but which one would you add if you only could add one? Would love to hear from guys who have either owned both or driven both. TIA
both wonderful but very very different. 911R is riding a trained pure bred RS4.0 is riding a bronco, i just drove it today for almost 200 miles on mt roads. and i had to talk dirty and whip its ass to get it to drive right |
@ Moody enjoyable discussion as always. What ARE the differences between a 4.0 and 3.8 in your mind? How would you mod a 3.8 to make it closer to a 4.0 ? - or not? taking track out of the equation totally agree with you once you track you never go back having owned a CS myself there is no substitute for a real PMNA car Close friend owned both 4 and 38 we spoke this week abot this he prefer 38 on street. maybe you can talk dirty to a 38 2? |
i bought 4.0 at msrp
it is very low optoin and cheaper than most 3.8 if you had to pay 500 for a 4.0 then perhaps 3.8 is better deal i woudlnt' bother with modding. just drive it. for many years i owned 2 3.8 and 1 4.0 i only track the 3.8 they were modded with moton and sticky rubber. |
Thanks. And drive it I do. msrp car. snow in europe and tracked. Rain dirt. chip on the hood. New engine. Think it’s a 4.0 they put in as it pulls hard ;) Dosent matter, never selling. Always tremendous pleasure to take out Only saw one at Werks and the whole week personally it’s the deal of the line up. 3.8 wish I had a few more like u used 2. Btw what’s moton?? and it’s PTS+ White. |
Hey, one thing the GT2RS does better than the 4.0 is that it gets you VIP parking at Rennsport Reunion :roflmao:
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After having a 2RS for 24 hours now... I'd take the 2RS. It is so much more than the sum of its parts. Just had Leh Keen drive it and he was blown away. Said the chassis is very composed and would be hard to find the limit.
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No interest in a 4.0. And price on 2RS will continue to drop. At 500K, I'd be looking for a special one-off like a Singer. And am considering it.
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Originally Posted by msimon9
(Post 15242169)
Some great justifications. In looking at value alone I feel these two cars will maintain consistent values in perpetuity as all gt2’s gt2rs have. The limited versions of these cars (pts, Cxx, wp) will always be in higher demand and sell quicker at a premium. I guess what I was asking is do people prefer the extra few hundred HP and overall capabilities of the gt2rs lend to a more fun driving experience than that of a 997 4.0? Or is it just the opposite? I believe that this version of the gt2rs will be the last of the non electric supplemented versions, making it the most capable gas 911 forever. I personally have a commission for a gt2rs but would love to purchase a 4.0 in the near future. Thanks for all of your feedback and I welcome more opinions!
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
(Post 15242687)
This absurdity alone says enough. The GT2RS should and never will be close to what a 4.0 is worth. Either the GT2RS is crazy over valued if you accept $150K over MSRP or the 4.0 is a screaming deal.
Originally Posted by DerStig
(Post 15242756)
The fact that you are asking which car means you are completely clueless and the only similarity between either of those cars and you is the fact that you have money you dont know what to do with. I sincerely ask that you leave the brand and go elsewhere. People like you and enthusiasts dont belong to the same sentence.
Originally Posted by msimon9
(Post 15243414)
Douchebag, I am aware that these are two very different cars. Hence the reason I am asking the preference of the group. Yes, I am fortunate enough to be able to make this purchase and would like some feedback as to what some of the justification for ownership would be from other enthusiasts. I am a collector, I am a track day lover, I drive my cars and I almost never sell anything I own. I can tear a car apart from front to back and top to bottom. You have zero right to ask me to leave the brand. If you can’t afford the brand in this circumstance, please refrain from posting, no one asked you for your negativity. i wish keyboard warriors didn’t click on a thread knowing they are just going to moan. |
A new Singer build will cost more than 500k nowadays. 700k is more like it when you factor in the original donor car.
Originally Posted by Es macht nichts
(Post 15251989)
No interest in a 4.0. And price on 2RS will continue to drop. At 500K, I'd be looking for a special one-off like a Singer. And am considering it.
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Originally Posted by meyerhoffer
(Post 15251436)
r. snow in europe and tracked. Rain dirt. chip Btw what’s moton?? and it’s PTS+ .
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 15251780)
Hey, one thing the GT2RS does better than the 4.0 is that it gets you VIP parking at Rennsport Reunion :roflmao:
though when i raced RRV, i had paddock parking and i get in before track at 5am, then i nap in the trailer hahaha
Originally Posted by sgroer
(Post 15251877)
After having a 2RS for 24 hours now... I'd take the 2RS. It is so much more than the sum of its parts. Just had Leh Keen drive it and he was blown away. Said the chassis is very composed and would be hard to find the limit.
it doesn't drive like a turbo it doesn't sound like a turbo it really is OTHERWORLDLY. like a very fast GT3
Originally Posted by Es macht nichts
(Post 15251989)
No interest in a 4.0. And price on 2RS will continue to drop. At 500K, I'd be looking for a special one-off like a Singer. And am considering it.
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 15253322)
A new Singer build will cost more than 500k nowadays. 700k is more like it when you factor in the original donor car.
actually it's 700 without donor, if a want 4.0L, velocity stacks, 6 speed with guards LSD. i fainted while at singer talking to them, had to be resuscitated LOL it's moving art. not just car. and it drove beautifully. |
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