No more GT3RS WP!!!
08-04-2018, 08:27 PM
#18
Rennlist Member
Must be some kind of online app we can sign with VIN number, purchase date and name?
Not a lawyer but I do pay a lot of them and I just can’t understand how they think it will be cheaper to settle if someone crashes the car and gets hurt without CS equipment on track, as advertised being its intended use VS someone getting hurt using the car on the road because of the bar?
With selling it, they can have profit, signed waivers and disclaimers, etc.
Without selling it negligence?
Not a lawyer but I do pay a lot of them and I just can’t understand how they think it will be cheaper to settle if someone crashes the car and gets hurt without CS equipment on track, as advertised being its intended use VS someone getting hurt using the car on the road because of the bar?
With selling it, they can have profit, signed waivers and disclaimers, etc.
Without selling it negligence?
08-04-2018, 10:17 PM
#19
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08-04-2018, 11:32 PM
#20
Yeah they knew it would have been high seeing the demand for it on the GT2RS. Where there only so many of those WP bits that could be made over the life of the production?
08-04-2018, 11:50 PM
#22
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It’s a test.
It went like this in the meeting:
“Our profit margin is off the scales! Unbelievable what our customers will pay to get less, even if it neuters a perfectly good track car, crazy, nein?
Now let’s see how far we can push these nutters and find out how much money there’s stuck with nowhere to go and delete a few of these standard lightening parts that actually make the car faster and than we make those not available as individual optios that only dealers pick, no, no, they can only have the good, new stuff as part of a super special package. But make sure it’s very visual for Hans over at marketing and let’s find out what happens when we charge 10% of the value of the entire car to see how much room we have to go up. Maybe 25% of them will fall for it??!!”
Asked and answered.
Actual needed Clubsport package we delete for US?
Hah! F@ck ‘em!!
It went like this in the meeting:
“Our profit margin is off the scales! Unbelievable what our customers will pay to get less, even if it neuters a perfectly good track car, crazy, nein?
Now let’s see how far we can push these nutters and find out how much money there’s stuck with nowhere to go and delete a few of these standard lightening parts that actually make the car faster and than we make those not available as individual optios that only dealers pick, no, no, they can only have the good, new stuff as part of a super special package. But make sure it’s very visual for Hans over at marketing and let’s find out what happens when we charge 10% of the value of the entire car to see how much room we have to go up. Maybe 25% of them will fall for it??!!”
Asked and answered.
Actual needed Clubsport package we delete for US?
Hah! F@ck ‘em!!
08-05-2018, 12:53 AM
#23
RL Community Team
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A waiver will not work.
Because while you the owner (say, Trakcar) signs off on the waiver, what if Trakcar's best friend takes it for a ride? Or his buddy decides to do a lap at Sebring? The waivers do not, and cannot, apply to those individuals. That's the kicker.
Because while you the owner (say, Trakcar) signs off on the waiver, what if Trakcar's best friend takes it for a ride? Or his buddy decides to do a lap at Sebring? The waivers do not, and cannot, apply to those individuals. That's the kicker.
08-05-2018, 01:21 AM
#25
RL Community Team
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So if you are willing to have PAG limit the GT3 RS to 400 cars for the U.S. in exchange for a Clubsport pkg / factory rollbar ....
08-05-2018, 01:46 AM
#26
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How does production volume have anything to do with it? Serious question. I'm not aware of volume-based exemption for occupant safety as defined by the govt...)
08-05-2018, 02:04 AM
#27
RL Community Team
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Of coruse, individuals can also petition to import non-conforming vehicles on a one-on-one basis use RI.
08-05-2018, 09:05 AM
#29
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Chevy and Vipers come with parts that a customer needs to buy separately and attach at the track for off road use only?
Porsche at least should sell the parts, just like the other companies.
Hell, what could be the reason that they refuse to sell the bars even in Germany??
Leave it to us to Import and install them!
A local shop has bars and full cages on the way to the US now, but why make use go via via and jump through all these hoops? And there are companies that now 100% copy Porsche’s roll bars as well.
I would love to see it confirmed that BMW is able to do it by petitioning for approval based on low volume.
Maybe they just took the trouble to design it away from the seats/added padding?
Porsche can’t deny that they advertise the cars for track use with roll bars and that 90% of the cars at the track have a roll bar. Some are 100% copies of the original.
08-05-2018, 10:09 AM
#30
Nordschleife Master
OK, thanks, but how does Dodge do it with the Demon for the drag race only parts in a crate?
Chevy and Vipers come with parts that a customer needs to buy separately and attach at the track for off road use only?
Porsche at least should sell the parts, just like the other companies.
Hell, what could be the reason that they refuse to sell the bars even in Germany??
Leave it to us to Import and install them!
A local shop has bars and full cages on the way to the US now, but why make use go via via and jump through all these hoops? And there are companies that now 100% copy Porsche’s roll bars as well.
I would love to see it confirmed that BMW is able to do it by petitioning for approval based on low volume.
Maybe they just took the trouble to design it away from the seats/added padding?
Porsche can’t deny that they advertise the cars for track use with roll bars and that 90% of the cars at the track have a roll bar. Some are 100% copies of the original.
Although I couldn’t get the WP as it was not available for July orders I would not have ticked that box for $18k when they were not even giving me the titanium roll bar that the same $18k gets you in Europe and elsewhere. That’s at least a $5k+ item you don’t get but they still get the same $18k. Was told you can’t buy it separately either . WTF.
Maybe their still pissed at us about that little WWII thing?
DOTs rational is the same for a caged race car. Not street legal as the bars are hard point that can cause injury to passengers. People don’t wear helmets on the street . That’s how they
see it .