GT2RS vs GT3 Cup Car
09-01-2018, 01:12 PM
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Bingo. Well put.
In light of the fact the .2 3RS was only 9 seconds off the 2RS at the Ring I’m thinking the .2 3RS is faster on shorter tighter circuits like Laguna etc or within a second or so.
Even with its NA motor the .2 3RS is throwing down seriously fast times at various tracks including faster times or equivalent times to/than the 918, Perfomante, 720s, 675LT, 488, ZR1. That to me is actually more impressive than doing it with 700hp. TT 700hp makes it easy. Everyone gets blinded by the 700hp.
The 3RS is doing more with less. That’s more impressive to me.
09-01-2018, 01:28 PM
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Well, it should. The only purpose of a more track focused alignment is to widen the grip range on bends, this means you can hold tighter lines and go on power sooner and even enter with sharper angles without loss of traction. So, you should had been seeing improved laps with your alignment. If not, check your track data and push a bit more.
P.S. Why not try the dsc module? The dampers at least can be solved. And what's wrong with the spring rates? They are plenty hard but enough to give decent compliance.
P.S. Why not try the dsc module? The dampers at least can be solved. And what's wrong with the spring rates? They are plenty hard but enough to give decent compliance.
Having said that, even with KW kit, I still went through the liners first day out at Zandvoort,
It’s very very good kit, compliant on the road and dials out a lot of the issues on track. Only small downside is that it squeaks a bit, but you don’t notice that when going fast!
i would still have it stiffer, inc replacing the sway bars, but they don’t recommend that as too compromised on road. Fine with me, as it’s not for racing -just wanted it to the stage you can really push without it falling over on itself and oversteering into the undergrowth.
FWIW, the Manthey 2RS set-up on the 2RS uses different spring rates, packers and settings than on the 3RS, even on same KWs. Shows they handle differently.
09-01-2018, 01:36 PM
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It's counter intuitive to suggest that an alignment isn't beneficial for anyone anywhere. Driving styles, track surfaces and even car tolerances are different. Without taking Pyrometer readings from and individual car on an individual track, I don't see how one could say optimising an alignment isn't beneficial at all. I'm not sure what the adjustment range is on the 991's though, but that seems far fetched at best.
09-01-2018, 04:22 PM
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It was also estimated the actual time difference between a .1RS and .2 3RS at the Ring was about 10 second Which translates into about a second or two on shorter American circuits. That’s the same delta at the Ring which separates the GT2RS and .2 3RS
This indicates to me that with the 2RS’s 180 hp advantage over the 3RS the 3RS is the better balanced more effective track weapon which seems to do a lot more with a lot less.
09-01-2018, 05:14 PM
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If you compare lap times on Fastestlaps the 3RS is within a second or so on the shorter circuits.
It was also estimated the actual time difference between a .1RS and .2 3RS at the Ring was about 10 second Which translates into about a second or two on shorter American circuits. That’s the same delta at the Ring which separates the GT2RS and .2 3RS
This indicates to me that with the 2RS’s 180 hp advantage over the 3RS the 3RS is the better balanced more effective track weapon which seems to do a lot more with a lot less.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The dot 2 3RS may be slightly better balanced, but not enough to negate the sheer brutality that the 2RS will bring to the track.
09-01-2018, 07:34 PM
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For curiosity I went out check Fastest Laps and the closest delta is 1.6 seconds on hockenheim short which is barely over a 1 minute lap. Essentially 2 seconds at Sachenring (1.98 seconds) where it beat the 918 and set the lap record.and 3.5 seconds at Variano which is also a very short lap.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The dot 2 3RS may be slightly better balanced, but not enough to negate the sheer brutality that the 2RS will bring to the track.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The dot 2 3RS may be slightly better balanced, but not enough to negate the sheer brutality that the 2RS will bring to the track.
Speaks volumes as to the .2 3RS’s capability.
09-02-2018, 01:06 AM
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Man that thing was a foot workout!
That's just lovely.
09-02-2018, 09:25 AM
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09-02-2018, 09:39 AM
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I've seen quite a few reports of the Gen V ACR being quicker than the 996/997 Cup cars, so I'd be pretty surprised if the 2RS doesn't give the new Cup car a run for its money.
09-02-2018, 03:08 PM
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The ACR is not quicker than a 7 Cup. Its probably quicker than a 6 cup on most tracks on slicks. The ZR1 could be quicker on slicks, but only if the weather is cool as the C7's seem to pull timing in hot conditions and power suffers greatly.
09-03-2018, 02:06 PM
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09-04-2018, 11:15 AM
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09-04-2018, 11:17 AM
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