Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

The beginning of the end

   
Old 07-05-2018, 08:13 PM
  #1  
Terrence
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Terrence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 943
Received 31 Likes on 26 Posts
Default The beginning of the end
http://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf...rce=newsletter

Maybe there is reason why Porsche has decided to only make one year of GT3 and GT2RS (because next year those cars would make less hp given the same specifications).

I am not selling mine, maybe ever! We are lucky to have them now.
Terrence is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-05-2018, 08:50 PM
  #2  
ExMB
Rennlist Member
 
ExMB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,393
Received 1,310 Likes on 796 Posts
Default
Used to be here til the mods moved it
ExMB is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-05-2018, 08:55 PM
  #3  
bluehorseshoe
Three Wheelin'
 
bluehorseshoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Fairfield County, CT
Posts: 1,766
Received 444 Likes on 178 Posts
Default
What? No manual demand for Golf R? Hard to believe. Can you imagine that car with an automatic?
bluehorseshoe is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-05-2018, 09:18 PM
  #4  
neurotic
Rennlist Member
 
neurotic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,394
Received 545 Likes on 261 Posts
Default
The only market for manual is the US. For some nostalgic reason, we Americans still have a healthy appetite for three peddle cars.

No complaints. I’ll keep buying them as long as they are willing to produce them!
neurotic is online now  
Reply Like
Old 07-05-2018, 09:31 PM
  #5  
Archimedes
Race Director
 
Archimedes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 13,163
Received 3,857 Likes on 1,901 Posts
Default
Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
What? No manual demand for Golf R? Hard to believe. Can you imagine that car with an automatic?
While my Golf R is a 6 speed, I understand the DCT is awesome in that car. It’s definately quicker than the 6 speed. The manual gearbox is not the jewel of this car.
Archimedes is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-05-2018, 10:28 PM
  #6  
porscheflat6
Drifting
 
porscheflat6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: In my Garage
Posts: 2,413
Received 225 Likes on 147 Posts
Default
Sad.... world is not using commen sense and practicality
porscheflat6 is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-06-2018, 02:33 PM
  #7  
Ducati1199
Burning Brakes
 
Ducati1199's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Danville, Ca
Posts: 939
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default
Originally Posted by neurotic
The only market for manual is the US. For some nostalgic reason, we Americans still have a healthy appetite for three peddle cars.

No complaints. I’ll keep buying them as long as they are willing to produce them!
i think you have this back to front. 99% of Americans can’t drive a manual and have no interest in them at all. I bet as well that the vast majority of P car owners can’t drive stick either - all those Macan moms and Panemera Dads. It’s just a small part of those people into cars who, I agree with you, have a nostalgic reason to want to drive a manual. And yes I get the “feeling” bit as well but my point is that outside of North America kids and grandparents can drive stick.
Ducati1199 is offline  
Reply Like

Trending Topics

Old 07-06-2018, 02:40 PM
  #8  
johnny2five
Burning Brakes
 
johnny2five's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 808
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default
Originally Posted by Ducati1199


i think you have this back to front. 99% of Americans can’t drive a manual and have no interest in them at all. I bet as well that the vast majority of P car owners can’t drive stick either - all those Macan moms and Panemera Dads. It’s just a small part of those people into cars who, I agree with you, have a nostalgic reason to want to drive a manual. And yes I get the “feeling” bit as well but my point is that outside of North America kids and grandparents can drive stick.
and that’s the reason many outside US don’t prefer manuals in their performance cars. They have to drive manuals in all their other cars so there’s less appeal for it on their fun cars. Manual = cheap cars is the genera attitude in some places. Just look at the numbers for Porsche...the US has much higher demand for manual. Can vs want.
johnny2five is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-06-2018, 02:49 PM
  #9  
pitt911
Rennlist Member
 
pitt911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: some where nice
Posts: 2,571
Received 919 Likes on 530 Posts
Default
I still buy 3 pedals
I had a MT golf R and it was a blast, and still have a MT evo 10 in the stable , which also is a blast to drive
pitt911 is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-06-2018, 05:27 PM
  #10  
ChoyV
Racer
 
ChoyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 407
Received 35 Likes on 19 Posts
Default
I always tell my wife every time I buy a new car, "This is it and this will be a keeper". It looks like my GT3T is a keeper unless there will be a better Porsche 911 NA and MT.
ChoyV is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-06-2018, 11:05 PM
  #11  
kyrocks
Rennlist Member
 
kyrocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Limassol, Cyprus and DFW, Texas
Posts: 4,636
Received 389 Likes on 204 Posts
Default
Originally Posted by johnny2five


and that’s the reason many outside US don’t prefer manuals in their performance cars. They have to drive manuals in all their other cars so there’s less appeal for it on their fun cars. Manual = cheap cars is the genera attitude in some places. Just look at the numbers for Porsche...the US has much higher demand for manual. Can vs want.
This is very true.
Also, in some European countries the manual costs more than the PDK due to not being as fuel efficient.
kyrocks is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-07-2018, 01:21 AM
  #12  
ajw45
Three Wheelin'
 
ajw45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NYC <> Boston
Posts: 1,624
Received 318 Likes on 168 Posts
Default
10hp for the particulate filter seems not bad?
ajw45 is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-07-2018, 11:57 AM
  #13  
GiuseppeM
Three Wheelin'
 
GiuseppeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,448
Received 87 Likes on 55 Posts
Default
Essentially the power loss has come from the need to fit a more restrictive exhaust to reduce nitrogen oxide emissions
The article talks about a larger exhaust pipe and not a particulate filter. Or the filter is inside the exhaust?!? Would this be something easily removable?
GiuseppeM is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-07-2018, 03:02 PM
  #14  
Needsdecaf
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Needsdecaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: The Woodlands, TX.
Posts: 8,812
Received 2,524 Likes on 1,571 Posts
Default
Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
What? No manual demand for Golf R? Hard to believe. Can you imagine that car with an automatic?
Yes, I can. It would be lovely.

My daily is a GTI with DSG. My C2S is a manual.
Needsdecaf is offline  
Reply Like
Old 07-08-2018, 03:06 AM
  #15  
pilfer
Racer
 
pilfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 317
Received 16 Likes on 10 Posts
Default
Originally Posted by Archimedes


While my Golf R is a 6 speed, I understand the DCT is awesome in that car. It’s definately quicker than the 6 speed. The manual gearbox is not the jewel of this car.
Mine is a DSG as well. I've heard the manual isn't that great from various reviews but I've never driven one myself.
pilfer is offline  
Reply Like
Back to Subforum
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R
View Next Unread
So What Comes Next ?


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Advanced Search
Quick Reply: The beginning of the end


Reply Closed Thread Share
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:24 PM.