New video review of Manual GT3 by Henry Catchpole
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To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
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I almost bought this Magnus Walker hotrod a few years ago. One of the coolest things about the car were the mis-matched seats. Kind of regret I didn't pull the trigger.
#22
It's not slightly louder, it's a lot louder. 3-5db louder. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but, admittedly, a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Notwithstanding this, a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
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It's not slightly louder, it's a lot louder. 3-5db louder. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but, admittedly, a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Notwithstanding this, a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
spot on Chris.
thank you for your posts.
#24
It's not slightly louder, it's a lot louder. 3-5db louder. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but, admittedly, a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Notwithstanding this, a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
wow thanks for the clarification. your thought process makes sense. would be interesting to see what Porsche has to say about this in the future.
#25
It's not slightly louder, it's a lot louder. 3-5db louder. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but, admittedly, a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Notwithstanding this, a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
As some others have suggested, its probably due to the different acoustics between the two cars. Due the differences in plan placement, induction vents and engine hood, I suspect the sound takes completely different paths with a lot more being reflected back into the cabin of the Touring. And I am still not convinced there is not less sound insulation in the GT3T.
The photos show just how different the two cars are in terms of fan placement and induction vents. Also, the GT3 has the vent directly under the duck tail which I bet provides an additional escape path for engine noise that the Touring doesn't have.
Like you, I wish I had a verified technical reason for the differences.
https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_level.php?lvl=3
Interesting topic, but while we debate 3 dB, many on RL are buying aftermarket for louder exhaust (I'm not).
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The intake filter box is a completely different shape on the Touring. I assume that and the intake itself make it louder. See the post here
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...3-touring.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...3-touring.html
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Call me a bit skeptical w/your "lot louder" characterization. Here's a test for everyone: Listen to 3 files, all at 3 dB. Take the test. I did better using the 6 db target (see at top).
https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_level.php?lvl=3
Interesting topic, but while we debate 3 dB, many on RL are buying aftermarket for louder exhaust (I'm not).
https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_level.php?lvl=3
Interesting topic, but while we debate 3 dB, many on RL are buying aftermarket for louder exhaust (I'm not).
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It's not slightly louder, it's a lot louder. 3-5db louder. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but, admittedly, a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Notwithstanding this, a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.
To my ears, it is extremely uncomfortable. I get out of the car with a bad headache and ringing ears. To the extent that I am very reluctant to take the car on long motorway drives anymore.