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Old 05-31-2018, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sasportas
This was on a brand new car. Never disassembled. Lost approximately 6 screws per ram air duct. I haven't taken apart the bumper to access the air filter yet but I'm sure that some of the screws are in that area.

I called Porsche customer care to alert them of the problem but they referred me back to my local dealer who can't find the screw type to order new ones.

I agree that the screws should have been torqued in better from the factory.

Porsche and the dealer don't seem too concerned. Now it's on my dime to try find these replacement bolts and re-assemble to entire deck lid carbon fiber parts.

I guess that if I paid $40K more for the car then they'd consider giving me the 50 cent screws so that I can re-assemble the rear lid even though it's a factory defect.
i have never heard such.
name the dealer
put on IG FB
and PCNA do after service surveys, that affects compensation.
friend or mine has an audi servided and they damaged the int. with some forceful argument, the took car back and replace wth new one (it was quite a bit of damage in this case)
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Originally Posted by mooty
i have never heard such.
name the dealer
put on IG FB
and PCNA do after service surveys, that affects compensation.
friend or mine has an audi servided and they damaged the int. with some forceful argument, the took car back and replace wth new one (it was quite a bit of damage in this case)
Agree with mooty. I can kinda understand where the dealer is coming from. This appears to be a one-off incident, nobody else seems to have had this happen to them, at least here at RL, so they have some doubts as to this being a factory fault. Regardless, you paid good money for their product and expect it to be fault free. As it is, through no fault of your own, through their failing, you are now deprived the use of their product. Not only should they take responsibility and fix this, they should provide you with the use of a comparable product while they figure out how to fix what is their fault. That's how I would do it.
Old 05-31-2018, 02:08 PM
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Take one out and take a picture with dimensions listed and I can probably tell you what it is. I am sure McMaster Carr carries it or fastenal.
Old 05-31-2018, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfij
Take one out and take a picture with dimensions listed and I can probably tell you what it is. I am sure McMaster Carr carries it or fastenal.
Yeah, you can also bring a bolt to a hardware store and they can tell you exactly what it is. Thread pitch, length, size, etc. Probably 10 cents on McMaster Carr. But that shouldn't absolve Porsche/dealer from making it right.

I'm still wondering how these bolts came out in the first place. With the rear deck closed, the bolts can't back out as they are basically in contact with the engine cover.
Old 05-31-2018, 04:40 PM
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It's the bolts holding the ram air duct to deck lid. I scavenged some of the bolts from the underside of the deck lid to tack back the ducts.
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factory fault or not
this is a simple issue
not rocket science
if i was servicde manager, i just fix it and get it over with.
it's not something they shoudl even have any discussion on.
Old 06-01-2018, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
factory fault or not
this is a simple issue
not rocket science
if i was servicde manager, i just fix it and get it over with.
it's not something they shoudl even have any discussion on.
Agreed. Regardless of what caused it, it should be dead simple to resolve. I mean... shops know how to get their hands on odd bolts they don't have part numbers for don't they?

I'm still 100% convinced this isn't a factory issue. For some reason, unknown to the OP, these were removed at some point and not put back properly. Maybe damage during shipping or PDI or some such thing. My first guess would have been PPF installation but apparently it hasn't had that. Someone screwed up.
Old 06-01-2018, 05:47 PM
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Since Porsche dealer can't find the screws as a single item they've been told by Porsche to replace the entire rear deck/wing of the car.

How crazy!!!!

Over $2 worth of screws they'd rather spend $15k to replace the whole deck.

I'm not inclined to do this because the paint will never match.
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Originally Posted by sasportas
Since Porsche dealer can't find the screws as a single item they've been told by Porsche to replace the entire rear deck/wing of the car.

How crazy!!!!

Over $2 worth of screws they'd rather spend $15k to replace the whole deck.

I'm not inclined to do this because the paint will never match.
Let them order the entire rear deck. But then just take the screws off the new part and use 'em. If they want to waste $15K, let 'em.
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^
dude, please tell me that's a joke!!!
wow
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Originally Posted by FourT6and2
Let them order the entire rear deck. But then just take the screws off the new part and use 'em. If they want to waste $15K, let 'em.
win-win
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Ya. Take the screws off the new deck and fit them to yours. Or, you know, just post a picture of one and I will find it on McMaster Carr.
Old 06-08-2018, 01:55 PM
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Update.

Porsche claiming that they don't know if it's a defect. Leaving me to sort it out.

I've already taken it to the dealer twice.

All of this for a few missing screws.

Obviously the screws weren't torque or needed some loctite.

Hard to believe.
Old 06-08-2018, 02:17 PM
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I am sure these are common screws used on all Porsches. The dealer has bins of fasteners, I can't believe they don't have any. Take one of the screws out that are remaining, measure it and report back. I am sure it is a Torx 25 or 27, black, length? size in mm? Like mooty says this is not rocket science.
Old 06-08-2018, 02:34 PM
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I am sorry, but your dealer sucks, big time. Post who it is, serves them right, and report them to PCNA. Stop going to them.

As to the main problem, finding the right screws, take off one of what you have and take them to an auto shop.


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