ST Rotors – The New Carbon Ceramic Rotor Alternative
05-22-2018 | 10:39 AM
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ST Rotors – The New Carbon Ceramic Rotor Alternative
Carbon ceramic brakes have always been a love-hate relationship in the track day community. They offer many benefits over cast iron brakes with the only real drawback being the replacement costs, even though they typically last significantly longer than cast iron rotors. The end result is track enthusiasts pursuing cast iron brake rotor conversions or spec’ing their cars with cast iron rotors, in the process giving up both braking performance and handling. As the Exclusive North American Distributor for ST Carbon Ceramic Rotors, we offer an alternative solution through ST’s innovative technology, where you can get all the benefits listed below of the ST carbon ceramic rotors and at a much more cost-effective price point
• REFURBISHABLE multiple times with an average expected lifespan of *12-15k track miles* with refurbishments
• Available for both PCCB (Yellow) and Cast Iron (Red) Caliper equipped vehicles without the need for replacing the calipers
• Better braking performance over PCCB’s and cast iron rotors
• Significant improvement in brake modulation over PCCB’s – better trailbraking
• Option to run a much more aggressive pad for track applications versus PCCB’s
• Approximately 50% less expensive than PCCB rotor replacements
• Average expected life between refurbishments of 4 to 5 thousand track miles
• Refurbishment of a complete ST rotor set costs less than the equivalent cast iron rotor replacements
• Significant reduction in brake pad wear compared to the PCCB rotors, and most cast iron rotors
• Operating temperatures approximately 200 degrees lower than PCCBs
• 50% less unsprung weight compared to the equivalent GT3/GT4 cast iron brake rotors
• Minimal brake dust compared to cast iron rotors for street use
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• REFURBISHABLE multiple times with an average expected lifespan of *12-15k track miles* with refurbishments
• Available for both PCCB (Yellow) and Cast Iron (Red) Caliper equipped vehicles without the need for replacing the calipers
• Better braking performance over PCCB’s and cast iron rotors
• Significant improvement in brake modulation over PCCB’s – better trailbraking
• Option to run a much more aggressive pad for track applications versus PCCB’s
• Approximately 50% less expensive than PCCB rotor replacements
• Average expected life between refurbishments of 4 to 5 thousand track miles
• Refurbishment of a complete ST rotor set costs less than the equivalent cast iron rotor replacements
• Significant reduction in brake pad wear compared to the PCCB rotors, and most cast iron rotors
• Operating temperatures approximately 200 degrees lower than PCCBs
• 50% less unsprung weight compared to the equivalent GT3/GT4 cast iron brake rotors
• Minimal brake dust compared to cast iron rotors for street use
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Fitment
• Applicable for both factory Cast Iron and PCCB equipped vehicles
• 991 GT3, .2 GT3, GT3 RS, .2 GT3 RS, GT3 Cup, 911 R, GT2 RS, Turbo and Turbo S
• 997 GT3, .2 GT3, GT3 RS, .2 GT3 RS, GT3 Cup, GT2, GT2 RS, Turbo and Turbo S
• 981 Cayman GT4 and GT4 Club Sport
• 996 GT3, Turbo and Turbo S
• Also available for most Ferrari models and some Aston Martin models
Pricing
(subject to change)
• Exclusive North American Distributor – AutoQuest Motorsports
• $12,998 per complete rotor set
• $600 per rotor for refurbishment (plus shipping)
***Expected ST rotor life is dependent on the following***
• Proper bedding
• Correct pads
• Timely refurbishments
• Factory brake cooling in place
ST is the carbon ceramic rotor supplier for Singer Porsches, Koenigsegg, and Aston Martin’s upcoming hypercar…the Valkyrie.
Please feel free to post, PM, email, or call me at my contact information below with any questions. I would be happy to work with you, and provide direct contact with current ST users : )
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Fitment
• Applicable for both factory Cast Iron and PCCB equipped vehicles
• 991 GT3, .2 GT3, GT3 RS, .2 GT3 RS, GT3 Cup, 911 R, GT2 RS, Turbo and Turbo S
• 997 GT3, .2 GT3, GT3 RS, .2 GT3 RS, GT3 Cup, GT2, GT2 RS, Turbo and Turbo S
• 981 Cayman GT4 and GT4 Club Sport
• 996 GT3, Turbo and Turbo S
• Also available for most Ferrari models and some Aston Martin models
Pricing
(subject to change)
• Exclusive North American Distributor – AutoQuest Motorsports
• $12,998 per complete rotor set
• $600 per rotor for refurbishment (plus shipping)
***Expected ST rotor life is dependent on the following***
• Proper bedding
• Correct pads
• Timely refurbishments
• Factory brake cooling in place
ST is the carbon ceramic rotor supplier for Singer Porsches, Koenigsegg, and Aston Martin’s upcoming hypercar…the Valkyrie.
Please feel free to post, PM, email, or call me at my contact information below with any questions. I would be happy to work with you, and provide direct contact with current ST users : )
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05-22-2018 | 02:59 PM
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05-22-2018 | 03:18 PM
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why go cross drilled here vs a slot or other similar option? Does it have something to do with ceramic vs steel? I’ve never been a fan of steel cross drilled rotors. Thanks
05-22-2018 | 03:22 PM
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05-22-2018 | 03:31 PM
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How are ST ceramics' wear measured? The same as PCCB? How do you know when it's time to change? I don't see the markings you see on the PCCB. Also, can you just use the current factory pads?
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05-22-2018 | 04:58 PM
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Well, coincidentally we can relieve that horrible stress you are experiencing by not having them 
As drdronger mentioned, ceramics don't have the same issues of stress fractures at the drilled holes as steel rotors do. Also, due to it's construction you can't slot a ceramic rotor but no need on the ceramics anyway : )
Due to their unique construction, the ST rotors do not oxidize carbon through their entire core like the PCCB's do, it is limited to the face of the rotor. This is what allows them to be safely refurbished, and allows them to be measured visually via surface oxidation versus weighed and measured for carbon content. You would simply keep an eye on the surface oxidation, and we will work closely with you during their lifetime to determine refurbishment points. The OEM PCCB (Pagid P40) pads can be used on the ST rotors, however we would recommend that anyone purchasing them takes advantage of the fact more aggressive pads can be run on the ST rotors that cannot be run on the PCCBs. Give me a call on my cell any time and we can go over the difference between the available pads in more detail.
Due to their unique construction, the ST rotors do not oxidize carbon through their entire core like the PCCB's do, it is limited to the face of the rotor. This is what allows them to be safely refurbished, and allows them to be measured visually via surface oxidation versus weighed and measured for carbon content. You would simply keep an eye on the surface oxidation, and we will work closely with you during their lifetime to determine refurbishment points. The OEM PCCB (Pagid P40) pads can be used on the ST rotors, however we would recommend that anyone purchasing them takes advantage of the fact more aggressive pads can be run on the ST rotors that cannot be run on the PCCBs. Give me a call on my cell any time and we can go over the difference between the available pads in more detail.
Last edited by AutoquestMotorsports; 05-23-2018 at 10:27 AM.
05-22-2018 | 06:11 PM
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I saw these this weekend at MO on a few friends cars that winter down in Sebring 
. They look impressive, and the owners swear by them.
I understand that the initial cost will pay for itself over time if you track the car and could even end up saving you money. As to performance, the current stock steel brakes on my 2018 GT3 seem to be more than capable and it is the OEM MPSC2 tires that are limiting the braking. Is there an advantage to these brakes if one doesn't plan to move to slicks? Not sure the CL wheels and suspension elements can handle slicks, anyway.
. They look impressive, and the owners swear by them.I understand that the initial cost will pay for itself over time if you track the car and could even end up saving you money. As to performance, the current stock steel brakes on my 2018 GT3 seem to be more than capable and it is the OEM MPSC2 tires that are limiting the braking. Is there an advantage to these brakes if one doesn't plan to move to slicks? Not sure the CL wheels and suspension elements can handle slicks, anyway.
05-22-2018 | 10:50 PM
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Maybe I missed it but what is the weight comparison between the ST CCB rotors and the PCCBs?
I know that the ST CCB rotors are 50% lighter than the OEM Porsche irons, but what about the ceramics?
I know that the ST CCB rotors are 50% lighter than the OEM Porsche irons, but what about the ceramics?
05-22-2018 | 11:46 PM
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Same thing I wanna ask ST... the weight difference between their rotors and the OEM PCCB.
I installed ST rotors on my RS and it's really amazing! Good braking power, no brake dust and way way lighter than my steel rotors! I lost 42lbs. of unsprung weight!
