Fodder for You 911R Haters
05-21-2018, 04:50 AM
#46
Technically, doesn’t seem like much. But I think the combination of less weight (50kg), more noise (less sound deadening and titanium exhaust) and different geo makes it feel a bit more nimble. It’s certainly more playful and has more charachter than a Touring. For fun road use and as a source of enjoyment, I would have the R every time. It really is more then the sum of its parts. I found the Touring more planted and quicker on track but I bought my car primarily for road use.
I have a Touring. If they were the same price, I would swap, but it’s not worth 2x a Touring to me so I guess I will make do with the 16th best Porsche!
05-21-2018, 05:09 AM
#47
In relation to the Touring. In my experience the Touring sounds just as loud as the R inside. Also it feels much more planted on the road. Mine also sits lower than my R on stock settings. But like above its the SMFW that makes a big difference in the way the cars drive. The R also feels much lighter than its 1270 dry weight. Its also moves around more on the back than the Touring. The R reminds me very much like a 964 RS the way the engine revs/feels on the road. Whist the Touring feels like it has more TQ lower down. In a line form 20-140 Plus Nothing between the 2 cars.
05-21-2018, 05:19 AM
#48
Can a smfw be fitted on a touring?
05-21-2018, 05:47 AM
#49
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05-21-2018, 06:47 AM
#53
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me, for driving in the countryside of America, there is no car I would rather have than the R and that includes, e.g., Ferrari, Koenigsegg, Lamborghini, McLaren or Pagani. To me, the R is the best combination of everything for pure enjoyment and it is wonderfully elegant and just the right amount of understatement.
05-21-2018, 10:39 AM
#54
Three Wheelin'
The 991.2 GT3T is a better car than the 912r. It has a better engine with more torque down low. It also has a tweeked suspension, rws and better tires. The only thing the 911r has going it, is that it limited. It is one of the most overhyped car Porsche has produced imo. I’d take a 997.2 4.0 RS ovee it any day.
05-21-2018, 10:57 AM
#55
Racer
The 991.2 GT3T is a better car than the 912r. It has a better engine with more torque down low. It also has a tweeked suspension, rws and better tires. The only thing the 911r has going it, is that it limited. It is one of the most overhyped car Porsche has produced imo. I’d take a 997.2 4.0 RS ovee it any day.
05-21-2018, 11:10 AM
#56
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That s why R costs 1/3rd a 918
half the 997 RS 4.0
1/10th 911 R ?
etc etc
but better.. hey is better!!!
even a 928 is better than a (better than R engine) GT3 touring!!!
come on, the R flippers *** is on fire!
and need some fresh water from paid jurnos
btw no one hate the R just laughing for decals overhyping and its weak non 9krpm engine
half the 997 RS 4.0
1/10th 911 R ?
etc etc
but better.. hey is better!!!
even a 928 is better than a (better than R engine) GT3 touring!!!
come on, the R flippers *** is on fire!
and need some fresh water from paid jurnos
btw no one hate the R just laughing for decals overhyping and its weak non 9krpm engine
Last edited by fxz; 05-21-2018 at 01:45 PM.
05-21-2018, 02:55 PM
#57
Rennlist Member
The 911R and GT4 are a great cars, and everybody is entitled to their own opinion on what they consider the best (and 6th best), but I don't see how any Porsche enthusiast can take this list seriously. More an act of desperation to stir controversy and interest in CAR than any meaningful order of significance.
Best Porsches of all time? Personally, I wouldn't put any 981/991 variant in the top 10, maybe not even the top 20.
Best Porsches of all time? Personally, I wouldn't put any 981/991 variant in the top 10, maybe not even the top 20.
05-21-2018, 05:30 PM
#58
Mmmmmmm fodder.....
How is the CGT 14th?????????
How is the CGT 14th?????????
05-21-2018, 05:35 PM
#59
Pro
The 911R and GT4 are a great cars, and everybody is entitled to their own opinion on what they consider the best (and 6th best), but I don't see how any Porsche enthusiast can take this list seriously. More an act of desperation to stir controversy and interest in CAR than any meaningful order of significance.
Best Porsches of all time? Personally, I wouldn't put any 981/991 variant in the top 10, maybe not even the top 20.
Best Porsches of all time? Personally, I wouldn't put any 981/991 variant in the top 10, maybe not even the top 20.
Even more how about a list of Porsches that are appreciating. This particular list must be around somewhere.
Last edited by bcgreen; 05-21-2018 at 08:43 PM.
05-21-2018, 08:24 PM
#60
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