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Old 04-29-2018, 10:22 PM
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who starts the list? for the engine. and also the chassis.

don´t forget the 100% and 50% harder spring rates,
rose ball joints (except the ones connected with the rear wheel steering)
updated PDK (is it possible to re-map? or is there also a hardware difference?)
front brake cooling
rear diffusor
car media
reverse camera
100g lighter rims each corner
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the special tires!
Old 04-29-2018, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jo_ker
who starts the list? for the engine. and also the chassis.

don´t forget the 100% and 50% harder spring rates,
rose ball joints (except the ones connected with the rear wheel steering)
updated PDK (is it possible to re-map? or is there also a hardware difference?)
front brake cooling
rear diffusor
car media
reverse camera
100g lighter rims each corner
and!


the special tires!
I think the changes you mention are for .1RS vs .2RS not .2 GT3 vs .2 GT3RS
Old 04-30-2018, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
'17 and later R's use Gen2 motor.
So they changed this without public notice? Any differences in power or something? On the website they still claim "Powering the new 911 GT3 R is a cutting-edge four-litre flat-six unit which is largely identical to the high-performance production engine of the road-legal 911 GT3 RS."
Old 04-30-2018, 07:48 AM
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The engine differnces are:
1. ECU remap
2. BMC oem filters
3. Titanium exhaust
Old 04-30-2018, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante
When reading dyno charts, first thing to look at, is Horsepower & Torque curves are always equal at 5252 rpm, these dyno charts are not accurate.

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Originally Posted by drdonger
The engine differnces are:
1. ECU remap
2. BMC oem filters
3. Titanium exhaust ‚TIPS
fify.

rear section was on .1RS already titanium.
or are there now also pipes and side muffles made of titan next to the new titan tips?
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Originally Posted by Z06

When reading dyno charts, first thing to look at, is Horsepower & Torque curves are always equal at 5252 rpm, these dyno charts are not accurate.

just noticed torque is measured in nm .. the GT3 & RS dyno charts have a slightly different intersection at rpm, where hp & nm meet. One of those dyno charts is off.
Old 04-30-2018, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cay_PI
So they changed this without public notice? Any differences in power or something? On the website they still claim "Powering the new 911 GT3 R is a cutting-edge four-litre flat-six unit which is largely identical to the high-performance production engine of the road-legal 911 GT3 RS."
"Largely identical" LOL
Old 04-30-2018, 12:11 PM
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Does it matter if they sound different even if they are "largely identical?"
Old 04-30-2018, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by drdonger
The engine differnces are:
1. ECU remap
2. BMC oem filters
3. Titanium exhaust
In other words, no internal differences...
Old 04-30-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cay_PI
These torque diagrams are highly interpolated. Real power curve is different. Have a look on the dyno results posted here.
Maybe two completely different types of measurement; one is steady (Porsche) and the other transient (aftermarket)?
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Hypo question. A .1RS hits the COTA back straight at the same time as the .2 GT3. Does the RS pull away?
Old 05-02-2018, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Houston GT3
Hypo question. A .1RS hits the COTA back straight at the same time as the .2 GT3. Does the RS pull away?
The GT3 should pull ahead on the straight, due to less drag (much smaller wing, hips, wheels/tires
Old 05-02-2018, 11:13 PM
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.2 GT3 pulls away over 80MPH.
The best .1RS can hope for is existing the corner enough MPH to keep up..
Old 05-02-2018, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
.2 GT3 pulls away over 80MPH.
The best .1RS can hope for is existing the corner enough MPH to keep up..
The biggest real world difference you can feel between the two cars in the past, wasthe amazing front end of the RS... The extra wiDTH and rubber really gives you an incredible turn in ability. I don't think the other differences like downforce and any extra engine power are apparent in most situations. Many have more experience than me I'm sure, this was just my impression.


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