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C.J. Ichiban

A lot of you guys are missing in my key point which is that this has to be a long term strategy for both dealer and customer.

As a customer of Park Place- I always tried to have relationships with the highest level guys. I bought a few M in cars from their store over a short span. Basically my p1 and related purchases substituted for the 918.

But as soon as I became a dealer- no calls back despite being told I'm top 10 on all the cars I wanted to be on the list for. So now that I'm a dealer I'm pretty much back to square one and my version of being a business person is charging the customer for his car and hoping that eventually Porsche says "hey CJ good job here is a car for you" since we are such a small store compared to California stores in general.

I'm stuck between buying cars and selling cars but find my CGT and R and 997 and 993 stuff to be still fun enough that I don't need to take a local customer's allocation. I'll wait for what I really want and let all the customers get cars and try to build for the long term.

The ADM THING SUCKS but better to buy a car you can afford that holds decent value vs see the economy in the crapper because then factories stop making good cars!!

shapiroeric

What's fair? A price both the customer and dealer are comfortable with. Honestly if you don't pay the $50K someone probably will.....

ChicagoWhale

The reason you received no calls back from Park Place is because you've managed to burn most of your dealer relationships in a very, very -- very! -- short period of time.

Question for you CJ: if you are distributing your GT3 orders by using your v070 order demands, why do your new GT3's continually show up online for sale at MSRP once they hit v300 status, and stay there until v999? Readers of Rennlist don't understand how the internal mechanics of PVMS work, so they can't see your continual hypocrisy. But if you're going to start naming dealers like Park Place, then we are going to start having conversations again about how v070 order demands work. I look forward to your response.

ChicagoWhale

Perhaps we could turn this into a positive learning experience for Rennlist readers of how v070 order demands are converted into real allocations. This way, everyone benefits positively.

Sound like a good idea?

C.J. Ichiban

I'm at no point "burning" or "getting burned" by Park Place. They are good. I have gone on record MANY TIMES about how they are good. They're good enough that I gave them back my ADM'd Riviera PTS car (that I found via RL'er on east coast) for MSRP as a buddy deal since they sold me my R at MSRP.

I know it must really suck to keep trying to poke holes in this but there is nothing there and no skeletons in my closet.

Bought a Boxster Spyder from Mike Ludes. He was great. Traded it in when my GT4 arrived a few months later to Circle. Circle courtesy delivered my R which was airfreighted 3 months late. The five dealers I have bought cars from in the last few years are

Circle (GT4)
Park Place (R)
Capital Eurocars (box Spyder)
Philly/ Main Line (RS riviera)
Braman (RS UV)

Both RS's I paid ADM because I wanted a PTS /UV car and a RL'er backed out and I paid what he agreed to. The Boxster Spyder was actually a RL deal- he had it advertised and I wired the money.



Why do they auto populate just like a Macan? I'll have the Gary Stock rep call you to explain how the websites on the internet work...you can call my customers to ask how the GT allocations work. (The cars all remain in the system until they are paid for, and RDR'd by one of the 4 finance or Sales Managers). With regular cars, like a Miami Blue GTS, sometimes customers back out after the lock date. That's why I have a "KF" Graphite Targa GTS on my Lot.

Did you make a map of my EHB calendar? You have way too much time on your hands obviously. Or you can just give up and use your insider knowledge to educate everyone on Porsche's Product Plan, the 2025 Plan etc.

If you only had a real name

GT3

C.J. Ichiban

No it's up to the dealer to input the customer data into the actual allocation box.

pors9

The easiest money to make is the money you don't spend.

pors9

If $50k over was a great deal then the market would have cleared and there would be none available. But they are ...

C.J. Ichiban

If you invest the money you don't spend it's crazy compound interest!

soulsea

I'm sure there are a lot of folks waiting to see what the second round of allocations brings volume wise.

pors9

and get the opportunity to purchase at .... MSRP or $50k over? are the 'best clients' the ones that are always willing to over pay or the ones who keep in touch with the 'top employees at the store'?

GT3

pors9

Maybe you should take your money out of those CD's? Better yet buy a car $50k over and enjoy the deprecation