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Old 04-21-2018, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Me too. The way the car launches from 2nd through 4th gears is insanity. If you go full throttle in 3rd the AWD torque just takes you instantly to Redline. I ride an S1000RR and it's like that but faster
Wow, I was racing motorcycles at Mugello last Sept and to get that kind of feel from a car....crazy. Faster? even crazier. What was that thing redlining at? I still love the old V8 and V10 high revving F1 cars but this thing is absolutely bonkers
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919: 1.42 Spa

around 50sec ! faster as LT, 918, .1GT3RS (2.39)


on the 3times longer NOS this would mean 1.40 or?
(the next lines would not be possible to type with x3 meaning 2.30 in mind)

so. 7min - 1.40 would mean a laptime of: 5.20

if the 919 team stops by at NOS during their tour. and they put again such a crazy driver behind the wheel.

the car world
would go nuts.


want to see that!



new hashtag #BTGsub5
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Originally Posted by race7117
Wow, I was racing motorcycles at Mugello last Sept and to get that kind of feel from a car....crazy. Faster? even crazier. What was that thing redlining at? I still love the old V8 and V10 high revving F1 cars but this thing is absolutely bonkers
Yes it only revs to 8k rpm but it's 4WD with 800lbs of torque or something crazy. And it weighs 1860 lbs!
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Originally Posted by jo_ker
CJ




919: 1.42 Spa

around 50sec ! faster as LT, 918, .1GT3RS (2.39)


on the 3times longer NOS this would mean 1.40 or?
(the next lines would not be possible to type with x3 meaning 2.30 in mind)

so. 7min - 1.40 would mean a laptime of: 5.20

if the 919 team stops by at NOS during their tour. and they put again such a crazy driver behind the wheel.

the car world
would go nuts.


want to see that!



new hashtag #BTGsub5
Porsche certainly has the Driver's capable but the real question is in regards to the KERS type recovery. That electric boost is formidable and carefully tuned to be useful on a full lap. It would be interesting to see them run in a low drag vs high downforce configuration...they would probably gain more from High DF as some corners would be totally flat that way. The electric boost is really utilized as a push from 120kph to 240kph and it would seem that a lot of those sections are too curvy to deploy the 1000+ ft lbs that the evo runs.

Very interesting engineering problem that way. They really have so much tech in the car- steering wheel brake Bias adjustment, front and rear diff/ traction settings, and also different recuperation modes for increased regent on braking.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Porsche certainly has the Driver's capable but the real question is in regards to the KERS type recovery. That electric boost is formidable and carefully tuned to be useful on a full lap. It would be interesting to see them run in a low drag vs high downforce configuration...they would probably gain more from High DF as some corners would be totally flat that way. The electric boost is really utilized as a push from 120kph to 240kph and it would seem that a lot of those sections are too curvy to deploy the 1000+ ft lbs that the evo runs.

Very interesting engineering problem that way. They really have so much tech in the car- steering wheel brake Bias adjustment, front and rear diff/ traction settings, and also different recuperation modes for increased regent on braking.
exactly this they would say.

after doing a 5.xx
having the ufo configured in parking settings





they know it have to be done!
and there would be a new scale. also for their own old/previous records. 956
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just...


f*ck...


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To be a Porsche factory driver...what a joy!! Timo also knows his stuff, quite impressive.
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Originally Posted by 908/3fan
I think that it will be a little bit difficult of doing this because Laguna Seca is a tight track and an F1 car is smaller with less aerodynamic resistance than an LMP1 car. I'm looking forward to see what it will happen!



Yes! Stefan Bellof's record is still a target after all these years.
I actually hope that they do not attempt to break Stefan's record in the 962 ... it should be left intact as a memorial to a remarkable driver and car ...
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Even in full qualifying mode an F1 car is still restricted. Great accomplishment and PR for Porsche and its also a great send off for the all conquering 919. But it only beat a "restricted" F1 car by .7 secs. Apples to apples (both unrestricted) the F1 would easily beat the 919's time at Spa and Porsche knows that. That being said it is incredible that a car that size can even play in an F1's sandbox.
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Originally Posted by Snakebit10
Even in full qualifying mode an F1 car is still restricted. Great accomplishment and PR for Porsche and its also a great send off for the all conquering 919. But it only beat a "restricted" F1 car by .7 secs. Apples to apples (both unrestricted) the F1 would easily beat the 919's time at Spa and Porsche knows that. That being said it is incredible that a car that size can even play in an F1's sandbox.
Really, a standard F1 car record is not an impressive enough benchmark?

And that’s a big IF that an F1 team is going to spend the considerable time and expense to unrestrict their race car to go after a record like this. We aren’t talking throwing another tune in the car, we are talking reengineering, building, testing and spending millions for the privilege.
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
I actually hope that they do not attempt to break Stefan's record in the 962 ... it should be left intact as a memorial to a remarkable driver and car ...
Records are meant to be broken, cliche.. but so true. You honor records and record-breakers by trying hard to beat them, thereby proving how big the achievement was in its own time. Any record which isn't broken isn't worth breaking (record for underwater basket-weaving with one hand tied behind your back sort of thing)
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Records are meant to be broken, cliche.. but so true. You honor records and record-breakers by trying hard to beat them, thereby proving how big the achievement was in its own time. Any record which isn't broken isn't worth breaking (record for underwater basket-weaving with one hand tied behind your back sort of thing)
Absolutely, well said. The sentiment seems silly once you realize your favorite record holder took that record from someone else...
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Love the fact that Porsche decided to pursue this with the 919.

Personally, I am hoping that Stefan's record will be broken by the road legal version of the Aston Martin Valkyrie & AMG's Project One - both on road legal tires.
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Originally Posted by CHADW
Really, a standard F1 car record is not an impressive enough benchmark?


"That being said it is incredible that a car that size can even play in an F1's sandbox."

The above was in my post. You probably missed that part. Of course its impressive.

Originally Posted by CHADW
And that’s a big IF that an F1 team is going to spend the considerable time and expense to unrestrict their race car to go after a record like this. We aren’t talking throwing another tune in the car, we are talking reengineering, building, testing and spending millions for the privilege.
Originally Posted by CHADW

Here's the thing though, you won't need an unrestricted F1 car to beat this 919 record. Its only .7 quicker than last years F1 car. Pretty sure the current F1 cars would beat it. I made the remark of unrestricted to show that apples to apples it would be no contest not that it would take an unrestricted F1 car to beat this 919 record.. And you won't need to re-engineer even a restricted 2017 F1 car to beat .7 secs.

Again its an impressive accomplishment by the 919 team, just looking at the big picture.


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