needmoregarage

I have the AutoQuest version in the GT4.

Made a HUGE difference and I could never go back to tracking without the added recline. It allows my head/neck to be in a natural, comfortable position. Otherwise (without seat arm adjuster) the top of the seat pushes my head forward/down and I end up at a weird angle that is uncomfortable.

Hubby (who is 6'0") does not like the reclined angle. He finds the seat uncomfortable for street driving and prefers OEM position (he no longer drives on track due to very bad back).

Several folks sat in my car last year to try out the seat angle, and every person who tried it with helmet on bought a set. From the photo above the TracSpec looks just like the AutoQuest version. Maybe the spec is different for a slightly different angle (can't tell from photo).

Cormid

Here is a comparison between driver seat with spacer and passenger without.

FourT6and2

AutoQuest version replaces the stock pivot arm with a longer one whereas the TrackSpec version is a spacer that relocates the stock pivot arm's mounting location. TrackSpec version does not change angle with seat height, AutoQuest's version does. AutoQuest raises front of seat by 1.5" and TrackSpec's version raises front of seat 1". They are surprisingly quite different considering they seek to do the same thing.

Mech33

FourT6and2

I'm surprised nobody has created a variable recline arm. Something you can actually pivot and raise/lower. But maybe there's no market for it?

needmoregarage

Thank you for explaining.

With that new info the TrackSpec version might be better. Obviously it all depends on driver preference.

I find the Autoquest version comfortable. It's more recline than I need but I make it work. Less recline might be preferable for hubby.
The Autoquest version does tilt forward slightly when the seat is in the fully raised position (which is where I keep it). I need a certain amount of recline to keep my helmet and head/neck restraint off the seat headrest. It's not a problem without helmet, but with helmet it creates neck and eye strain.

FourT6and2

Everyone's different I guess, but I find it uncommon your hubby prefers the seat in it's stock position, considering everybody who reclines the seats seems to love it. As soon as I sat in a Porsche with the buckets first thing I said was, "needs more recline." I did spend a few hours in a GT3 RS with buckets and after 20-30 minutes I didn't even notice the seats to be honest. I guess my dilemma right now is which recline bracket to try. I'm doing 99% street driving btw. So my concern isn't helmet and HANS. Just back comfort.

Terrence

needmoregarage

We have the same seats in the GT4 and the GT3RS (991). Like you - he doesn't even notice the seat in the RS and finds it comfortable for street driving.
I also don't notice the seat position at all in the RS, and the GT4 seat wasn't a problem until I put on the helmet and head/neck restraint (I switched from HANS to Schroth Flex). Without helmet I have adequate clearance for "normal" head position while street driving. With track gear - seat is VERY uncomfortable.

I think it also depends on your height and build (including width of shoulders). I'm small enough to fit comfortably without issue. I assume if you are tall enough, or broad enough across the back - the seats will not fit as well. But everyone is different...

FourT6and2

Eh? No, they don't have some sort of height adjustment. The seats do though...

CAlexio

I guess I'm not quite clear on which is better, but the trackspec solutions seems cleaner? Not sure what the "change angle with seat height" means.. the stock lwb get more vertical as height is raised.. you're saying that with the trackspec ones this goes away?.. I think of that as a positive no?.. keeping the same angle is preferable?

FourT6and2

From my understanding, the AutoQuest design simply takes the stock pivot arm and replaces it with a longer one. The TrackSpec version leaves the stock pivot arm alone and instead just raises it's mounting location, tilting the seat back. If the stock setup changes the angle slightly as you raise or lower the seat, that isn't affected.

I don't think either product is better or worse. They arrive at the same place via different methods. From my conversation with AutoQuest, it seemed like the longer pivot arms cause the seat angle to change as you raise/lower the seat, compared to stock. But don't quote me on that. I didn't know the stock setup also does this.

Personally, I wouldn't want the seat angle to change with seat height. I would prefer them to be independent. But I guess that's just not how the seats work.

The main difference between the two products, I gather, is AutoQuest might recline seat a bit more. I am going to try both.

needmoregarage

Cormid

"I guess I'm not quite clear on which is better, but the trackspec solutions seems cleaner? Not sure what the "change angle with seat height" means.. the stock lwb get more vertical as height is raised.. you're saying that with the trackspec ones this goes away?.. I think of that as a positive no?.. keeping the same angle is preferable?"

It's like jacking up only the front of your car...suddenly you are now reclined.

Jimmy-D

I do not track but find the OEM Position to be perfect on the street. I now find Myself adjusting my DD seat position up