Motor Trend Head 2 Head: AMG GTR vs GT3 PDK vs GT3 M
03-15-2018, 03:19 AM
#31
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hahahhahahahahahaha....... correct
03-15-2018, 03:33 AM
#32
Burning Brakes
Intriguing that manual times are coming out so close to PDK. Although I would respectively suggest that for 95% of us on here the delta would be significantly greater. That is, we personally couldn't get near our own PDK times. So I am thinking that if local club/ track day times are important to you (and in this case you wouldn't be a paid driver anyway) you would still want a PDK for lap time bragging rights. If you don't care so much, its the manual all the way.
03-15-2018, 09:26 AM
#33
Nordschleife Master
What's the huge surprise? LOL. One lap wonder with MT vs. PDK comparing a perfect lap. Ever see a one lap race or a 1 lap DE without traffic? I haven't. Compare lap times and finishing over a 1 to 2 hour race in traffic or multiple lap averages. You will see the PDK stretch the time differential.
03-15-2018, 10:19 AM
#34
haven't seen the footage, but can anyone report if Pobst used rev match and no-lift shifting?
03-15-2018, 10:21 AM
#36
Three Wheelin'
What's the huge surprise? LOL. One lap wonder with MT vs. PDK comparing a perfect lap. Ever see a one lap race or a 1 lap DE without traffic? I haven't. Compare lap times and finishing over a 1 to 2 hour race in traffic or multiple lap averages. You will see the PDK stretch the time differential.
03-15-2018, 10:24 AM
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I think he did not. He's a good enough driver that he gave away very little if any time by skipping the Rev-Match downshifts. I haven't tried the No-Lift upshifts yet, so don't have an opinion yet about whether it's significantly faster or not.
03-15-2018, 10:27 AM
#38
Three Wheelin'
Driving a manual is so second nature to him, he probably would have been slower with rev matching and no lift shifting😂
03-15-2018, 11:46 AM
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03-15-2018, 11:52 AM
#43
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But it's possible that the chassis are tuned differently to compensate for the above difference, leading to a more entertaining balance (and faster Firgure-8) in the Manual.
Probably worth playing around with swaybar settings if one wants a looser setup...
03-15-2018, 11:53 AM
#44
Yea I'm wondering how this will last, with the no lift upshifts and the rev matching. Porsche has still been incredible with its ability to build resilient cars but going back to a manual with mech LSD just not sure where we will end up
03-15-2018, 12:09 PM
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I disagree. For those of us who go to the same track repeatedly, the shift points and rhythm of the lap become second nature and it's possible to become very consistent with some practice. And with the Rev-Matching Downshifts and No-Lift upshifts if needed/desired, there's no reason that a decent driver shouldn't come quite close to his PDK times.