Is Break-In Process Same for Every Porsche?
03-14-2018, 09:33 AM
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Is Break-In Process Same for Every Porsche?
Does Porsche recommend the same break-in process for everything they sell? Is that part of the manual just regurgitated verbatim across the board?
I'm curious as to whether the GT3 process is tailored to the car or whether it's just the same pages as everything else gets. Do they recommend keeping it under 4000 rpm no matter what the redline is? Does a Cayenne Diesel have this page in the manual too or are the numbers different?
I'm not looking for a whole discussion on how everyone breaks in their cars. I know there's enough different opinions on this topic to fill an encyclopedia. I'm just curious as to whether Porsche tailors the process to the individual car or whether it's a generic "just do this" thing.
I looked at a dyno chart. The GT3 is putting down around 160 hp at 4k rpm. I expect one of the turbo cars is likely putting quite a bit more down. Seems they'd have difference processes.
I'm curious as to whether the GT3 process is tailored to the car or whether it's just the same pages as everything else gets. Do they recommend keeping it under 4000 rpm no matter what the redline is? Does a Cayenne Diesel have this page in the manual too or are the numbers different?
I'm not looking for a whole discussion on how everyone breaks in their cars. I know there's enough different opinions on this topic to fill an encyclopedia. I'm just curious as to whether Porsche tailors the process to the individual car or whether it's a generic "just do this" thing.
I looked at a dyno chart. The GT3 is putting down around 160 hp at 4k rpm. I expect one of the turbo cars is likely putting quite a bit more down. Seems they'd have difference processes.
03-14-2018, 09:43 AM
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Red-line does not matter. All USA gas models are the same verbiage. Good question about the diesel, don't know. We'll see.
03-14-2018, 01:03 PM
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I know you're not looking for a discussion of best practices, but this is from Andreas Preuninger (head of GT cars) - thought this might be useful since this is sorta a Porsche recommendation:
"I videoed AP's presentation, and here is what he said:
“I can only tell you how I personally do it, or how we do it at Weissach – for the first 500 kilometres or 300 miles, we don’t drive that car car ever over 5000 rpm, never. From then on, every 200 kilometres, we up the rpms by 500, so we end up at 1300, 1400 kilometres at the threshold before we can really go full throttle, at 800 or 900 miles”
He then went on that this procedure was really important for the GT3 RS engines given their more "delicate" rings - and how important this break in really is for any of their engines.
Another point - he recommended to realign the car after 1000-1500 miles due to settling - especially since the tires are getting bigger and bigger, and more sensitive to changes. The RS apparently is really sensitive around this.
You figure the head of the GT program would give you the straight goods.
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“I can only tell you how I personally do it, or how we do it at Weissach – for the first 500 kilometres or 300 miles, we don’t drive that car car ever over 5000 rpm, never. From then on, every 200 kilometres, we up the rpms by 500, so we end up at 1300, 1400 kilometres at the threshold before we can really go full throttle, at 800 or 900 miles”
He then went on that this procedure was really important for the GT3 RS engines given their more "delicate" rings - and how important this break in really is for any of their engines.
Another point - he recommended to realign the car after 1000-1500 miles due to settling - especially since the tires are getting bigger and bigger, and more sensitive to changes. The RS apparently is really sensitive around this.
You figure the head of the GT program would give you the straight goods.
Cheers,
Mike "
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03-14-2018, 01:25 PM
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On our Cayenne Diesel it just got driven, it's a low rpm engine that works best when in the torque.
On my GT4 I modified AP's break-in template --- 0 - 300 miles 4K rpm, 300 - 600 5K rpm, etc.
At the end of 1200 miles break-in was done.
On my GT4 I modified AP's break-in template --- 0 - 300 miles 4K rpm, 300 - 600 5K rpm, etc.
At the end of 1200 miles break-in was done.
03-14-2018, 01:34 PM
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I can tell you my .2 GT3 Manual was really stiff and grumpy up to about 300 miles and then I could start to tell her mannerisms started changing- it was that obvious
03-14-2018, 01:36 PM
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My dealer and mechanic said there should be no break in period required for the GT3 engine.....that said, can't see that being conservative with the RPM's up to 1000mi could hurt.....
03-14-2018, 01:39 PM
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Another point - he recommended to realign the car after 1000-1500 miles due to settling - especially since the tires are getting bigger and bigger, and more sensitive to changes. The RS apparently is really sensitive around this.
Where does on go to get your car realigned??
Where does on go to get your car realigned??
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03-14-2018, 01:43 PM
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My salesperson, parts guy, and finance manager all said to drive the car as it is meant to be driven. Don't abuse it or shock the drivetrain, but you should drive it the way it is meant to be.
I took it easy, but I did get in the upper RPM ranges while still around 300-500 miles.
I took it easy, but I did get in the upper RPM ranges while still around 300-500 miles.
03-14-2018, 01:46 PM
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My salesperson, parts guy, and finance manager all said to drive the car as it is meant to be driven. Don't abuse it or shock the drivetrain, but you should drive it the way it is meant to be.
I took it easy, but I did get in the upper RPM ranges while still around 300-500 miles.
I took it easy, but I did get in the upper RPM ranges while still around 300-500 miles.
03-14-2018, 01:57 PM
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03-14-2018, 09:58 PM
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I've always done an in the middle, under 400 miles 5000 rpm, under 800, 7500 rpm over 800, I generally open everything up, granted It's not like I'm blasting to 9k every moment I'm in the car either.
03-15-2018, 04:45 AM
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My 10 and 15 GT3 were broken in by the book. I broke my GT4 in at AMPs on the first day of the Spring 16 Smokies event. At 2000 miles the the GT4 had the best oil analysis. The 10 GT3 was close to 50 ppm of Cu at 14,000 mi. Not good.
03-15-2018, 05:08 AM
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I follow my dealers recommendation. First tank take it easy and after that go frenzy. Always warm it up properly regardless of kms. The first tank is more for the other components than the engine itself.
I feel sorry for those going obsessed with some oil changes after 1000miles, oil analysis, increasing rpm by 125rpm every 225km and a yard, bolster protectors, clear bra, double bucket washing procedures, etc. go find a good doctor.
life is too short and you will sell your car in 2 years anyway.
I feel sorry for those going obsessed with some oil changes after 1000miles, oil analysis, increasing rpm by 125rpm every 225km and a yard, bolster protectors, clear bra, double bucket washing procedures, etc. go find a good doctor.
life is too short and you will sell your car in 2 years anyway.
03-15-2018, 07:40 AM
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Perfectly agree .. Ahahahahha