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Old 03-11-2018, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy Wyatt
At best these people are only breaking even after you include the 8-12 sales tax and plate cost.Dealers are the only people who are actually profiting on these cars.
In GA you get credit for the taxes on the car you sold for the new purchase so you will get 100% of the tax zero loss. Dealer sells multiple cars to the same guy, and the GT3 with a fish hook to nab the ADM guy who dreams of having that GT3.
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
These are guys that never wanted the car, and beat the crap out of it. Sell it back to the dealer and they will split the ADM if the car is sold as consignment. By summer you will see cars all over, and your pick if you’re ok with buying a slightly used car? The RS will be a different game this go around with potential low volume, and if you can’t get a GT3 don’t even sniff the RS.
This is probably close to spot on.

Guys who got allocations but were not that interested to begin with. Have fun configuring it, driving it for a couple thousand miles and then selling. It's common in the F-car world.
Old 03-11-2018, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by manitou202
This^^^^^

My .2GT3 had an MSRP of around $170K. When you include sales tax, clear bra, and registration, I've got about $192K into the car. Even if I could get $200K for my car (extremely unlikely), that seems like a lot of work and risk for $8K.
This ^

I keep mine except if I get an RS allocation.
I was not thinking about the RS a month ago but felt in the trap... I am a "marketing victim"

This may explain some 2018 GT3 For Sale on the market...
Old 03-11-2018, 10:13 AM
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EDIT: I only sort on Manual Transmissions, PDK doesn't interest me - my personal viewpoint only

I don't see that many 991.2 GT3s for sale and AutoTrader recently had 8 but now they have 5
Originally Posted by Maverick787
In GA you get credit for the taxes on the car you sold for the new purchase so you will get 100% of the tax zero loss. Dealer sells multiple cars to the same guy, and the GT3 with a fish hook to nab the ADM guy who dreams of having that GT3.
Exactly, but add that each new purchase is sequential and subject to the prior Trade-In. That means if they are roughly the same price, the tax is minimized possibly nullified.

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Old 03-11-2018, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Perimeter
I don't see that many 991.2 GT3s for sale and AutoTrader recently had 8 but now they have 5

Exactly, but add that each new purchase is sequential and subject to the prior Trade-In. That means if they are roughly the same price, the tax is minimized possibly nullified.
agree when I sold my RS I paid zero tax on the new car because the RS had a higher value than the car I purchased. Good system vs what I had to deal with in CA when I lived there(:
Old 03-11-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bossing
That's ashame... not to even drive it or hardly. Because it's so fun and worth the ride..... I have over 1,700 miles on mine as of today and that's while taking turns & shuffling through my other cars as well. I have friends that say why don't you consign or trade it in early for the 3RS? Or park it indefinitely to preserve miles. I'm just like efff no. Now is not the time to dispose it and wait & wait again.... plus I bought this to enjoy... not to be a garage ornament.
I second this. Just wish the weather was warmer here. If it is above 40 F I take her out. Just need to be careful when it is cold out on these tires
Old 03-11-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Perimeter
I don't see that many 991.2 GT3s for sale and AutoTrader recently had 8 but now they have 5.
There are 34 listed on Autotrader right now...
Old 03-11-2018, 01:30 PM
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The Autotrader site over forty about a month ago. So it would seem the supply might be dwindling just a bit. I bought mine 2 weeks ago and paid 20K over sticker (manual transmission).
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Originally Posted by FourT6and2
There are 34 listed on Autotrader right now...
not all 34 cars are for sale to the public, some are repeats and some are new customer’s car popping up the dealer inventory.
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Old 03-11-2018, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FourT6and2
There are 34 listed on Autotrader right now...
Apologies, I use a bookmark and sort only on Manual Transmissions, PDK doesn't interest me.
Should have added that personal jaded view.
Old 03-11-2018, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Perimeter
Apologies, I sort only on Manual Trasnmissions, PDK doesn't interest me.
Should have added that personal jaded view.
i hear you my friend, in fact eBay have a few nice manuals for sale. They have a nice new GBM manual listed.
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As discussed before on here, AT scrapes dealer inventory of incoming sold cars. Unless you see an actual dealer photo, it's most likely not an available car.
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Some cars are being bought to flip by financial geniuses ...

On top of dealer spec builds ...

The higher prices PAG is charging now is cutting into the game. Hard to even flip for a FSBO and make any $$. The dealers have an advantage being dealers and cars being "new" still. A FSBO trying to flip for $20K is wishful thinking.

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Old 03-11-2018, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
As discussed before on here, AT scrapes dealer inventory of incoming sold cars. Unless you see an actual dealer photo, it's most likely not an available car.
Excellent observation - a dealer told me the same thing - NEW are automatically listed by a dealer-paid service. Saves them beaux coupe effort and time, apparently. (Personally, I wonder what their sale people do sometimes, but I digress...)

Using that and running the AutoTrader search I see 7 today, 6 are USED.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Porsche/911/Scottsdale+AZ-85255?zip=85255&startYear=2018&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceDESC&fir stRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=911&makeCodeList=POR&searchRadius= 0&trimCodeList=911%7CGT3&transmissionCodes=MAN
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Supposing you could get $25k over seems crazy to go through all of the trouble/risk for a 10-15% return on money. Much easier ways to make that return for far less the hassle.


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