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600HP possible out of the 4.0 GT3/RS engine, who is the first to unleash it?

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Old 04-17-2018, 04:35 AM
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i know in detail what it mean to bring a 2.0l 4banger to 300hp.
C20XE
Ford Duratec
etc.

it is possible to reach 150hp / l
but i would not want it on a car as the 991 RS or GT3 is.

thats race car stuff to reach it.
each 30h a rebuilt for 50k$
cold start issue
no good drivablity below 4.000rpm
about emmission or road legal i will not start to speak

the more i think about it - the more a masterpice is the current 4.0l engine already.
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Who in his right mind would tune a $75,000 engine and lose the warranty?
Old 04-17-2018, 11:36 AM
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I bet you there is already one garage pipe bender and welder already figuring out how to sell that 600hp bs to naives with his pipes.
Old 04-17-2018, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Who in his right mind would tune a $75,000 engine and lose the warranty?
Right mind? Ha.
Old 04-17-2018, 12:31 PM
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"Unlock" is the wrong term here. Making 600HP out of the stock motor is possible but many changes have to be made to the motor. This isn't a simple upgrade. For starters, 600HP would only be possible on race gas. The RS 4.0 motor is pretty high strung at 520HP and beyond that you are looking at cams and even more compression among other things.
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Originally Posted by Nick
Who in his right mind would tune a $75,000 engine and lose the warranty?
Too many of us on here- most of us are not of sound mind
Old 04-17-2018, 01:32 PM
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The 600hp for the new 4.0 is a ballpark "seen on the bench'". Nobody knows on which conditions.

I read somewhere, that the GT3 R motor is able to reach about 590hp without restrictor. Whats different to the motor in the .1 RS? Different intake without flaps, different cams, race exhaust and ecu I guess? And the higher readline, so maybe 590hp @ 9400 rpm
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Originally Posted by Cay_PI
I read somewhere, that the GT3 R motor is able to reach about 590hp without restrictor. Whats different to the motor in the .1 RS? Different intake without flaps, different cams, race exhaust and ecu I guess? And the higher readline, so maybe 590hp @ 9400 rpm
Lol. I can tell you what was different on the RSR engines on the Mezger, which also made 600+ hp unrestricted.

Bespoke intake with runners the size of tunnels. Individual throttle bodies on each runner. Solid lifters, Ti hardware, bespoke extreme lift cams. Bespoke ultralight 2 ring pistons, rods, crank. Completely new water cooling system, lightweight alternator and ancillaries. Equal length incomes headers, full exhaust. Motorsports ECU. In other words nearly nothing was shared, the engine would barely idle at 3k and was designed for 30 hours between rebuilds.

The Cup is more like what you describe above, but the true race engines are different animals.
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Originally Posted by jo_ker
i know in detail what it mean to bring a 2.0l 4banger to 300hp.
C20XE
Ford Duratec
etc.

it is possible to reach 150hp / l
but i would not want it on a car as the 991 RS or GT3 is.

thats race car stuff to reach it.
each 30h a rebuilt for 50k$
cold start issue
no good drivablity below 4.000rpm
about emmission or road legal i will not start to speak

the more i think about it - the more a masterpice is the current 4.0l engine already.
Truer words were never spoken

Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Right mind? Ha.
Do it. I double throttle dog dare you.
Old 04-17-2018, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Truer words were never spokenDo it. I double throttle dog dare you.
I'd rather drive my Martello
Old 04-17-2018, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I'd rather drive my Martello
A silver Prototipo is sitting in a garage somewhere waiting a believe... was just talking to someone today about it..



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