Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

AP on the GT3RS.2 and questions on suspension

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-08-2018, 04:39 PM
  #76  
C2Spin
Rennlist Member
 
C2Spin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: KY, USA
Posts: 720
Likes: 0
Received 93 Likes on 67 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Drifting
I’m glad. The RS is supposed to be extremely track focused. If an RS is comfy to drive across 3 states, then they sacrificed too much track capability for cruising comfort.
+1
Old 03-08-2018, 05:01 PM
  #77  
Manifold
Rennlist Member
 
Manifold's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Mid-Atlantic (on land, not in the middle of the ocean)
Posts: 12,438
Received 3,791 Likes on 2,193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
Same cycle as always:

Car is released, everyone picks it apart, would rather keep some prior gen they already own, cars start being delivered/reviewed, everyone goes nuts and wants one.
I have a .1 GT3 and put my name on the list for the .2 RS. Not picking apart the car to diss it or rationalize anything, just trying to assess the car realistically.
Old 03-08-2018, 06:30 PM
  #78  
Jrtaylor9
Rennlist Member
 
Jrtaylor9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: East Hampton / NYC
Posts: 3,810
Received 1,094 Likes on 541 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Manifold
I have a .1 GT3 and put my name on the list for the .2 RS. Not picking apart the car to diss it or rationalize anything, just trying to assess the car realistically.
Hopefully your dealer comes thru for you on the list.
Old 03-08-2018, 06:59 PM
  #79  
kfmcmahon
Three Wheelin'
 
kfmcmahon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: East Amherst, NY
Posts: 1,984
Received 110 Likes on 57 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Drifting

I’m glad. The RS is supposed to be extremely track focused. If an RS is comfy to drive across 3 states, then they sacrificed too much track capability for cruising comfort.
+2
Old 03-08-2018, 07:00 PM
  #80  
kfmcmahon
Three Wheelin'
 
kfmcmahon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: East Amherst, NY
Posts: 1,984
Received 110 Likes on 57 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
Same cycle as always:

Car is released, everyone picks it apart, would rather keep some prior gen they already own, cars start being delivered/reviewed, everyone goes nuts and wants one.

^^ so true
Old 03-08-2018, 07:03 PM
  #81  
Guest89
Drifting
 
Guest89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CHI / ATL
Posts: 2,793
Received 197 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
Same cycle as always:

Car is released, everyone picks it apart, would rather keep some prior gen they already own, cars start being delivered/reviewed, everyone goes nuts and wants one.
Of course! There are some major offenders here with respect to the 991.1 RS (I don't have to name them)
Old 03-08-2018, 09:30 PM
  #82  
MaxLTV
Rennlist Member
 
MaxLTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,186
Received 1,149 Likes on 567 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Drifting

I’m glad. The RS is supposed to be extremely track focused. If an RS is comfy to drive across 3 states, then they sacrificed too much track capability for cruising comfort.
+1 - the further away it is from my comfy Turbo the easier it is for me to justify both.
Old 03-08-2018, 10:30 PM
  #83  
CHADW
Racer
 
CHADW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MaxLTV
+1 - the further away it is from my comfy Turbo the easier it is for me to justify both.
Exactly my thoughts. Sounds like the new RS will be a good addition to compliment my 991.1 Grand Touring 3RS. Woohoo!
Old 03-09-2018, 06:19 AM
  #84  
Jrtaylor9
Rennlist Member
 
Jrtaylor9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: East Hampton / NYC
Posts: 3,810
Received 1,094 Likes on 541 Posts
Default

I owned and tracked and sold the 991.1rs. It was an awesome car. Even if the new 3rs is barely incremental improvement over the old, I'll have a new awesome car in a new colors/refresh, new suspension, new warranty, new engine, etc. bring it!
Old 03-09-2018, 10:14 AM
  #85  
consolidated
Drifting
 
consolidated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,587
Received 11 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

The .1RS with cheater Cup 2's and .2 springs/dampers/asbs should be very close to the new car. DSC Controller could be a solution to make that work.
Old 03-09-2018, 10:32 AM
  #86  
CHADW
Racer
 
CHADW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Porsche are so good at continuous, incremental improvement but a 3% better driver will even the playing field. The cars will be much closer than driver talent at DE track days.
Old 03-09-2018, 10:39 AM
  #87  
Manifold
Rennlist Member
 
Manifold's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Mid-Atlantic (on land, not in the middle of the ocean)
Posts: 12,438
Received 3,791 Likes on 2,193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by consolidated
The .1RS with cheater Cup 2's and .2 springs/dampers/asbs should be very close to the new car. DSC Controller could be a solution to make that work.
I don't think it's quite that simple. The new car has different aero, more power, meatier torque curve, revisions to the PDK, better brake cooling, and recalibration of the e-diff. Part of what we pay Porsche for is making the whole thing work well as a system, drawing on their formidable engineering talent and resources.
Old 03-09-2018, 09:19 PM
  #88  
kshu1991
Instructor
 
kshu1991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Does AP also mentioned that the same engine in their race car has over 600hp? Does that mean they could extract more power from this 4.0 engine?
Old 03-09-2018, 10:56 PM
  #89  
ipse dixit
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
ipse dixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16,339
Likes: 0
Received 10,770 Likes on 4,771 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kshu1991
Does AP also mentioned that the same engine in their race car has over 600hp? Does that mean they could extract more power from this 4.0 engine?
Of course they can.

But tuning an engine for racing applications versus tuning the same engine for the road where you have to emissions, provide a 4 year warranty, etc. is quite different.
Old 03-09-2018, 11:39 PM
  #90  
Waxer
Nordschleife Master
 
Waxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 5,435
Received 810 Likes on 424 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Manifold
I don't think it's quite that simple. The new car has different aero, more power, meatier torque curve, revisions to the PDK, better brake cooling, and recalibration of the e-diff. Part of what we pay Porsche for is making the whole thing work well as a system, drawing on their formidable engineering talent and resources.
incremental changes at best the largest of which is the 20hp with 0 torque increase. Nothing huge or drastic by any stretch. Headers, BBi suspension package and new mpsc and the .1RS is faster without breaking a sweat.




Quick Reply: AP on the GT3RS.2 and questions on suspension



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:38 PM.