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Old 03-01-2018, 01:55 AM
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Sure seems to me that if Porsche decides to turbo charge the next GT3 and GT3 RS, it's basically going to be a detuned GT2RS with less horsepower, because they sure look similar. That doesn't sound like a very attractive option, so might as well save up some extra pennies and just get a GT2 RS and be done with it. When and if Porsche ever does come to a point where they decide to turbo charge everything, they should just end the GT3 and GT3RS all together and let them skyrocket in value, because if it's not naturally aspirated, revs to 9000 rpm and sounds a race car, then it really isn't going to be a GT3 anymore.
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I bet a GT2 RS sounds better than a Mission E.... and that's truly where things are headed.
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Yes- No doubt that when they go FI in the GT3/RS it will just be a de-tuned GT2 RS. I see them keeping the GT2 RS moniker that every so often will be their "Bonkers" edition. I see the GT2 no longer a model( no need any more).This is why I am happy having a .2 GT3 w/ a manual. It does not matter how fast they make these Turbo cars because I love the 9000 rpm, NA engine that has stupid throttle response and sounds like the devil. When I am ready to go FI there are other models that may be worth considering like a McLaren
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A GT2RS doesn't make sense to me at 325K or so assuming you can get an allocation at MSRP. I would rather have, and do have a 488. I am in it at about 285K. That's just me though.
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Basically Porsche is setting itself up for a model differentiation problem as all its 911 and GT models go turbo/FI, I predict Porsche will discontinue some models (or at best make them 'limited edition') in order to prevent over-lap and saturation.
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If Porsche was actually going to make a turbo charged GT3 RS, it sounds like it would be one of the most undesirable GT cars ever produced. I've read rumors that it's going to be 550 horsepower, but people are just going to look at it and say OH! you bought the GT2 RS with the 550 Horsepower baby motor, should have gotten the 700 HP version, because that's the one that's going to hold it's value. I'm calling it, there will NEVER be a GT3 or GT3RS with a Turbo, that car needs to be Naturally aspirated or discontinued.
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Originally Posted by GT3(991)
If Porsche was actually going to make a turbo charged GT3 RS, it sounds like it would be one of the most undesirable GT cars ever produced. I've read rumors that it's going to be 550 horsepower, but people are just going to look at it and say OH! you bought the GT2 RS with the 550 Horsepower baby motor, should have gotten the 700 HP version, because that's the one that's going to hold it's value. I'm calling it, there will NEVER be a GT3 or GT3RS with a Turbo, that car needs to be Naturally aspirated or discontinued.
I bet it'll go down the 918 route....NA motor with electric motor assist.
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Originally Posted by GT3(991)
If Porsche was actually going to make a turbo charged GT3 RS, it sounds like it would be one of the most undesirable GT cars ever produced. I've read rumors that it's going to be 550 horsepower, but people are just going to look at it and say OH! you bought the GT2 RS with the 550 Horsepower baby motor, should have gotten the 700 HP version, because that's the one that's going to hold it's value. I'm calling it, there will NEVER be a GT3 or GT3RS with a Turbo, that car needs to be Naturally aspirated or discontinued.
I like your thinking
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I bet it'll go down the 918 route....NA motor with electric motor assist.
+1 - Ties in with the GT3 R Hybrid produced in 2011 as well.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I bet it'll go down the 918 route....NA motor with electric motor assist.
I said it first... I said it first!! (Stomps feet, walks off)
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I'm kind of thinking that if Porsche was going to continue making a model called a GT3 or GT3RS, they'd want to keep the characteristics that are unique to it, Manual Transmission, 9000 RPM and that awesome NA exhaust note that gives it that raw racecar feel, which is the main reason I believe people prefer this car over a Turbo. They already have the 911 turbo and 911 turbo s and the GT2RS, so anything else with Turbo with less Horsepower is going backwards, Heck a 7 year old 2011 GT2RS had 620HP, so a GT3RS with 550 wouldn't seem like anything all that special. The Naturally aspirated with Electric motor assist seems like it would be the most logical route, while still keeping it a GT3. I'm pretty sure Porsche has to realize that, so I'm more convinced than ever that GT3's and GT3 RS's will continue to be NA.
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I sure hope so but I have no desire to own battery power track toy.
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Originally Posted by GT3(991)
I'm kind of thinking that if Porsche was going to continue making a model called a GT3 or GT3RS, they'd want to keep the characteristics that are unique to it, Manual Transmission, 9000 RPM and that awesome NA exhaust note that gives it that raw racecar feel, which is the main reason I believe people prefer this car over a Turbo. They already have the 911 turbo and 911 turbo s and the GT2RS, so anything else with Turbo with less Horsepower is going backwards, Heck a 7 year old 2011 GT2RS had 620HP, so a GT3RS with 550 wouldn't seem like anything all that special. The Naturally aspirated with Electric motor assist seems like it would be the most logical route, while still keeping it a GT3. I'm pretty sure Porsche has to realize that, so I'm more convinced than ever that GT3's and GT3 RS's will continue to be NA.
The choice to continue N/A or not is not due to Porsche’s internal preference, but rather to comply with government emission regulations. They understand they market, and if it was solely up to Porsche, this debate would not exist. We’ll how they have to adjust. Back in 2011, the GT3 R hybrid 2.0 weighted only 2866 lbs and had 672 hp out of a 4.0 litter with two electric motors. 0-60 in 2.5 . Hopefully, Porsche will use something out of that chapter if they are forced to increase efficiency in future GT3 models without sacrificing performance. They’ve had 7 years to experiment how they can implement it on road cars...



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Well there you go, all this nonsense about putting a Turbo in GT3's and all they have to do is put an electric motor in it to make it more efficient. That car seems to be everything a GT3 should be, so no need to panic.

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Originally Posted by GT3(991)
Well there you go, all this nonsense about putting a Turbo in GT3's and all they have to do is put an electric motor in it to make it more efficient. That car seems to be everything a GT3 should be, so no need to panic.

Good vid. Sounds awesome.


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