TRAKCAR

Cross post that DE drivers may be interested in:
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...ed-safely.html

TRAKCAR

Seems Audi driving events allow closed windows!

Drifting

R.Deacon

Trakcar, perhaps set-up a new thread here with a poll for windows up or down , for DE only participants , ask folks to post car and group , likely not many green/blue here just a thought .

Seth Thomas

Saw your post in the track forum and I put my $0.02 in on the thread.

In talking to one local big track it is up to the event organizer which way is ran. So with an event group I am working with right now we are considering windows up for all our events.

R.Deacon

Citrus ?

TRAKCAR

Go for it Deacon, not sure how to set it up.

Thanks Seth,
Hopefully more DE drivers will chime in as well.

There are many valid points being raised about safety, like your exit practice / plan.
Either way, I think many of us will feel safer, will be more comfortable, more alert and concentrated, book more events due to the climate being irrelevant and will drive in wet conditions more often with the windows up.

I'm looking into Audi Club at VIR now to see if I can make it up there.

R.Deacon

anybody know how to set up new poll with a 2 choice poll for HPDE only event :
1. windows up passing directive using turn signal
2. current procedure windows open passing directive arm/hand out window

fame possible fortune for such skill ,
Thanks in advance

TRAKCAR

This is what I found out so far, please contribute to the original thread moved to the DE section.
Every track in the world not in the US/Canada that I can find.
High Plains Raceway
Thermal (Private)
Spring Mountain
Watkins Glen
Daytona
VIR
Dominion
Mid Ohio
Brainard
Road America

Organizations:
Every organization in the world not in the US and Canada that I can find out about.
Chin, when the track allows, see above.
Audi club
PCA Nord Stern

Please add if you have experienced closed windows optional at certain tracks and by organizations.

TRAKCAR

Another reason to look forward to ED :-)

TRAKCAR

Quote: Oliver Berg, Manager GT-Product Porsche
One option that is not recommended if you ever want to sell the car is air-conditioning delete. “Only 20 the 5,000 first generation 991 GT3 RS owners ticked the box for a/c delete,” said Oliver. “The fact is that while the 14kg weight saving might sound good on paper the discomfort you will experience when wearing a race suit and helmet on track in summer is simply not worth it. You will be hot and bothered and slower because you cannot concentrate as well compared to when you are cool and comfortable.”
http://9tro.com/media/features/new-c...1#content-page
http://9tro.com/media/features/new-c...2#content-page

CRex

In the same way that many race series now require mandatory window nets, tracking with windows up (marginally) helps keep the occupants' hands inside the car, at least in the initial phase of an impact.

That said, in some climates it's just not practical to drive with windows up. Glass isn't exactly the best protection material. If the car rolls or takes a side impact, the position of that window will be moot.

Shouldn't this be a discretionary issue?

TRAKCAR

Absolutely!
Id rather have a glass window then a Lexan one. Try breaking car glass, its very difficult even with a hammer or brick.
Its very easy with the right tool and should be part of the rescue tools.

Whoopsy

Our track, Area 27, primarily runs with the windows closed and the front car use turn signals to let the car behind know they can pass.

Running with windows open and doing point by is optional.

TRAKCAR

That's how it should be everywhere.
In Europe its mandatory windows closed, but I agree with Crex and Area 27, should be discretionary.