fbroen

Hehe. Or perhaps that PAG is the most profitable per unit of any volume manufacturer tells us something also...

CamsPorsche

Dealers in Canada have already begun refunding deposits so its looking ominous...

Yippiekiaye

Its the appearance of scarcity that makes these cars so desirable. Look at Hermes. Stupid Birkin bag, impossible to get so all the ladies want one when there is nothing special about it. Porsche knows what they are doing. Dangling the carrot in front of customers - creating demand. They aren't dumb.

djcxxx

Extra 19 RS's w/ particulate filter but no further GT3s appears to be the case, so far.

KBS911

Just got my allocation and signed for an 18 GT3 with an October build. Dealer said no 19's, but that the late builds would have actually been 2019 models. Just no production in 2019.

osu s2k

Bossing

No further GT3's does seem like it... for now and for the foreseeable 2018 calendar year.

Heck if the largest (read #1) dealer in the country, located here in south FL, can't get any more allocations (and they get the most out of all) then the future doesn't seem too promising. Well maybe one or two but still very few..... that's slim pickins'.

NJRickD

Do you really think dealers taking deposits and creating wait lists has anything at all to do with PAG??

subshooter

Of course. Porsche sets the policies and standards for the independent dealer franchises to follow. They could stop this behavior including the secret fluid lists. Upfront, PAG could say that the dealers cannot take a deposit or take the order to V70 unless they have an allocation and commission number. I think it is ridiculous that guys give a deposit and then it is returned 2 years later because someone else cut in line on the secret list. That guy could have gone to other dealerships but instead is in a wait line that he thinks is going to produce an allocation. I'm not sure if this would work - its only one idea. PAG has a lot of leverage over the dealerships. Smart people can figure it out.

These cars are scarce as it is.....purely based on price alone. Even if they doubled the GT3 production and sold every last one, the car would be scarce and highly coveted. We aren't talking about Honda civic numbers. Who is going to buy a $200k car? Not many people. Artificially limiting supply is not going to make these cars any more rare or desirable than they already are. Even if they sold all the GT3s that are demanded, it would still be a desirable and rare car.

midwestamv8

Not to be paranoid, but I like to look at the incentives in each situation. The dealer took your car on trade a while ago. If they can't get you a GT3... do they have any incentive to tell you that? Right now they've got free money in the bank from your trade and a potential customer (however low the chance) in the bag. If they can't get you a GT3 and can't manage to convince you to buy something else instead, that money leaves their bank account and they lose a sale and potentially a customer. They might know there's a low 2% chance of Porsche making anything in 2019.... but it seems like it would be in their best interest to string you along anyways.... to say "it may happen, hang in there!" rather than "sorry dude, it's not gonna happen.... you should go try to find another allocation or find an available car elsewhere at ADM...". The first one keeps money in their bank and, in the off chance that they DO get another allocation, gets them / you a car. The second.... probably gets YOU a car... but they don't get jack.

Just some food for thought.

tonymission

Same here. I had pretty much checked out of this forum being disheartened by all the deliveries and thinking I would never get a sticker allocation so I had no idea that people were being turned away. Then I got the call and put in my order the next day. Pre-trading my RS in the next couple weeks just to prevent something horrible from happening on the road and anticipating values dropping a little bit later in the year. I hate it that there are so many guys who still want this car that aren't able to get one, but also feel incredibly grateful that I was able to get one of the very last allocations. Not PTS, but definitely 6spd and just that alone has me so excited.

Palting

So, your dealer took in your 997.2 Turbo S with a promise to deliver a GT3. Now, he cannot deliver. He can refund a cash deposit, but he obviously cannot return your car.

I do not like your dealer. Sorry to say. He needs to do something spectacular to make it up to you.

Archimedes

While all the communications so far would indicate no 2019 GT3s will be produced, it isn't that far fetched to think that Porsche decided to change all the second half 2018 production to 2018 MY designations for regulatory reasons, and has since decided that, with the addition of the particulate filter, it can produce some more in 2019. Very unlikely, I suspect, but ya never know. I think the more likely reality is that the person who told the OP there would be more GT3s is simply mistaken. Sometimes I think communications from PAG in Germany to the SA's on the floor in dealers is like a children's game of telephone, where the message at the start is very different than the message at the end.

Alan Smithee

Terrence

Porsche emailed all the dealers and told them point blank "there will be no MY2019 GT3 and GT2RS". The dealers then told every customer the same. The customers take this info and react accordingly and go buy GT3's and GT2RS, thinking how rare the car will be, at least for two years. If Porsche now retracts from that claim and start making MY 2019 GT3's and GT2RS', I can see that US being as litigious a society as it is, will see a class action lawsuit claiming everything from false advertising to fraud and deceit. I don't think PCNA would risk all that just to sell a few more cars.

If anything, MY 2019 may see something mechanically similar but called a different name, like RSR, Final Edition, Club Sport, etc, whatever, but it won't be called a GT3 or GT2RS.