GT3 Touring Incoming - Back Seats Retrofit possible?
02-14-2018, 10:38 AM
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That's a joke, right?.....who do think pays for any medical/ rehabilitation bills if your child is injured in your own vehicle for an at fault accident?.....your insurance...and you can bet they would absolutely deny a claim if someone was sitting in the "back seat" of a car listed on the policy as a 2 seater.....
But back to the tech question, anyone have photos of the seat belt mounts on a non-GT 911?
02-14-2018, 11:24 AM
#19
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This has to be one of the best threads ever.
On a serious note and without sounding like a complete a$$. Please don't. Your kids lives are not worth owning this car. The amount of safety and testing car companies do to ensure the safest car possible and you are thinking about retrofitting and having someone "ADD" seats where they are not supposed to be or meant to be.
On a serious note and without sounding like a complete a$$. Please don't. Your kids lives are not worth owning this car. The amount of safety and testing car companies do to ensure the safest car possible and you are thinking about retrofitting and having someone "ADD" seats where they are not supposed to be or meant to be.
02-14-2018, 11:51 AM
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02-14-2018, 12:44 PM
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I can't decide if the OP was just trolling. If so, well played!
If not: I entirely agree with "goin2drt" on the safety front. Just don't do it.
For another reason, I'm a litigation lawyer (in Canada). I can tell you that if you were in any kind of accident and the adjuster saw seats that had been aftermarket added to the car (even if the seats were "safer" than OEM, even if the kids in the back were not hurt: even if there was no one in those seats) there would be perfectly valid grounds to deny your claim. You may be able to fight that, and you might even win. But an insurance company would happily pay someone like me tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to deny a claim like that.
If not: I entirely agree with "goin2drt" on the safety front. Just don't do it.
For another reason, I'm a litigation lawyer (in Canada). I can tell you that if you were in any kind of accident and the adjuster saw seats that had been aftermarket added to the car (even if the seats were "safer" than OEM, even if the kids in the back were not hurt: even if there was no one in those seats) there would be perfectly valid grounds to deny your claim. You may be able to fight that, and you might even win. But an insurance company would happily pay someone like me tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to deny a claim like that.
02-14-2018, 02:20 PM
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I suppose your Canadian adjustor would deny all claims made by Petervb on his highly modified 69 912 as well.
Back to tech, anyone have pictures of the back of a 991 with the carpet removed?
Back to tech, anyone have pictures of the back of a 991 with the carpet removed?
02-14-2018, 02:52 PM
#23
Is someone willing to call up an insurance company and explain the situation to them and see if they would write a quote? We need to get an insurance adjuster in here to tell us what would happen if a case like this landed in their lap. We might be overreacting.
02-14-2018, 04:19 PM
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Just so everyone knows I am not completely crazy about people legally adding seats that were not factory.
https://expeditionportal.com/field-t...ssenger-seats/
https://expeditionportal.com/field-t...ssenger-seats/
02-14-2018, 04:38 PM
#26
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Just so everyone knows I am not completely crazy about people legally adding seats that were not factory.
https://expeditionportal.com/field-t...ssenger-seats/
https://expeditionportal.com/field-t...ssenger-seats/
02-14-2018, 04:49 PM
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What insurance claim do you think you will have if you are in an accident with your own kid in the back? That you may not fully recover against another driver for injury to the child? An unisured/underinsured motorist claim on your own policy that won’t pay out? That your child will sue you when he/she turns 18? I suppose if you are cautious you probably should not take someone else’s kid back there (even that is debatable), but what claim are you worried about with your own kid? Keep in mind you are driving around where the vast majority of people are underinsured if they hit you in a GT3 from a property damage standpoint let alone injury and are judgment proof.
And this is even assuming that there could be a showing of contributory negligence in the seat install (seems unlikely that the seat/seat belt would fail).
And this is even assuming that there could be a showing of contributory negligence in the seat install (seems unlikely that the seat/seat belt would fail).
02-14-2018, 04:55 PM
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Just so everyone knows I am not completely crazy about people legally adding seats that were not factory.
https://expeditionportal.com/field-t...ssenger-seats/
https://expeditionportal.com/field-t...ssenger-seats/
02-14-2018, 05:09 PM
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Same issue in many cars re: GVWR, but unless you and your front passenger are really heavy, I don't see kids in the back putting you over the GVWR, at least no kids that would fit back there.
I guess everyone here drives the speed limit or less at all times too and has never slipped up and gone 56 in a 55. Does not drive when temps are below 45 degrees (owner's manual says you should not do that on stock tires). Has never installed a non-Porsche part on their car (again, owner's manual) including aftermarket wheels, tires, roll cage, brake pads, rotors etc.
I guess everyone here drives the speed limit or less at all times too and has never slipped up and gone 56 in a 55. Does not drive when temps are below 45 degrees (owner's manual says you should not do that on stock tires). Has never installed a non-Porsche part on their car (again, owner's manual) including aftermarket wheels, tires, roll cage, brake pads, rotors etc.
