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Old 02-14-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfij View Post
Same issue in many cars re: GVWR, but unless you and your front passenger are really heavy, I don't see kids in the back putting you over the GVWR, at least no kids that would fit back there.

I guess everyone here drives the speed limit or less at all times too and has never slipped up and gone 56 in a 55. Does not drive when temps are below 45 degrees (owner's manual says you should not do that on stock tires). Has never installed a non-Porsche part on their car (again, owner's manual) including aftermarket wheels, tires, roll cage, brake pads, rotors etc.
You are still missing the bigger picture. Good luck.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt View Post
This has to be one of the best threads ever.

On a serious note and without sounding like a complete a$$. Please don't. Your kids lives are not worth owning this car. The amount of safety and testing car companies do to ensure the safest car possible and you are thinking about retrofitting and having someone "ADD" seats where they are not supposed to be or meant to be.
^^^^ This though. I live less than a mile from my kids school, 35 mph speed limit would be the fastest street we would be on, but I still wouldn't put them in the back. They REALLY want me to pick them up when my car comes, but if some freak accident happened, how could I live w myself? One passenger at a time; that's what these things were made for.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee View Post
You are still missing the bigger picture. Good luck.
Don't have a fat wife and kids ...?
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:01 PM
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In the interest of moving the conversation forward, attached is a photo of a de-carpeted 991.2 GT3 I found. No idea what I'm looking at, but as interested in answers as the OP.


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Old 02-14-2018, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 8enny8lack View Post
Well, that is just a silly statement.
Why is that a silly statement? Should he have said "legally" instead? Front seat can be safer for kids in a proper booster seat depending on the type of accident. In the US, the airbags are disabled in that use case.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:30 PM
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Thanks. They look like weld in bungs and a tube shaped mount for the outer side of the seat. You unfortunately can’t see the upper belt mount, but everything else is visible. Maybe I will pull out the carpet and see if the flat stamping is present or not. Of course that would require me actually getting my car out of CARB prison.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:46 PM
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It sure feels like you could put a child seat with a 5 point harness in there. Some of them can hold pretty big kids, and the issue of "having enough give in the belts" doesn't apply, since child seats attach to hardpoints in the car anyway (GT3s have the top latch still) using the LATCH connectors. It feels like all you would need is a solid way to attach those LATCH connectors and it would be as safe as a normal 911--we're just back to the "will my insurance try to wiggle out of this" scenario.

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Old 02-17-2018, 09:11 PM
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OP, This is just an all-around bad idea. Consider a different car if back seats are needed.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
In the interest of moving the conversation forward, attached is a photo of a de-carpeted 991.2 GT3 I found. No idea what I'm looking at, but as interested in answers as the OP.


Thanks!
First helpful post in this topic.
Any idea if the rear seat and belt mounts are still there in a 991 gt3 like my 997.1 gt3?
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by balefire View Post
Any idea if the rear seat and belt mounts are still there in a 991 gt3 like my 997.1 gt3?
I'm not sure if it was this site or somewhere else, but on a 991.1 GT3 it was confirmed that mounting points you would need do not exist. This is a change from the 997.
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Old 12-20-2018, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by balefire View Post
Thanks!
First helpful post in this topic.
Any idea if the rear seat and belt mounts are still there in a 991 gt3 like my 997.1 gt3?
The answer is no. I had looked into this superficially before but the consensus was that indeed the shell of the GT3 in the 991.x is different and without mounts for seats nor seatbelts.

That said it does not mean it cannot be done. I am looking into this, if I find anything I will report back. Here in Europe you would need to get the mod approved by the relevant authority and insurance informed but I think that should not be the most difficult part over here. Especially as the 911 body already has rear seats in other models so it's not like you are mounting some seats in random places.

I love my GT3 to bits but with family plans having the 2 rear seats would just mean that the car could be used more often. It's either this and keeping an icon or potentially having to swap it for something more mundane like a 992 where the experience would not be the same for sure, but there would be something more of the time.. I will check with some good Porsche indies and Porsche Special Vechicle Ops and report back.

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This is the only let down on the touring. Rear seats would have made it a keeper for the long term.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BrntRubber View Post
This is the only let down on the touring. Rear seats would have made it a keeper for the long term.
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Old 12-20-2018, 03:09 PM
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As the 992 has a different structure under the skin there's always the hope that the 992 GT3 will get a rear seat option or at least not have the mount points removed.
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Originally Posted by balefire View Post
Thanks!
First helpful post in this topic.
Any idea if the rear seat and belt mounts are still there in a 991 gt3 like my 997.1 gt3?
deaf rear passengers??
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