Gear shifter flexing under torque in 4th gear, on 991.2 GT3
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#110
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Originally Posted by GrantG
If you're really driving "hard", you should never be at less than 7,200 rpm in 5th (if shifting at redline in 4th) - see chart:
#111
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991.2 GT3 manual transmission failure
Hi guys, I've been reading your thread and I personally think all GT3 owners facing this issue SHOULD be concerned.
I had the same issue and now my synchro ring has failed on the 4th gear.
What's more is my friends car had the exact same issue a few months back. His synchro ring failed, also on the 4th gear.
The problem I'm facing now with my dealer in the United Arab Emirates is that they've gotten a reply back from PAG stating to replace the transmission BUT it will not be covered under warranty.
PAG have requested for the transmission to be sent to them and for them to inspect it . This process will take 8-12 weeks . During this time PAG want to confirm if the transmission has been "miss used"
during this time I have to give $20,000 to my dealer to have this issue sorted out as it is "not under warranty" as of now.
The dealer has checked the transmission & could not find anything wrong with it. They are suspecting the synchro ring to have failed.
The problem is that Porsche don't sell this part separately (the synchro ring) they only sell the whole transmission as a whole piece .
Long story short my synchro ring has failed, my dealer won't replace it under warranty because they have not gotten the approval from PAG to do so .
I find it frustrating that the warranty is not respected and that I'm being forced to pay $20,000 for an entire transmission because a synchro ring has failed, which of course I'm refusing to pay.
Our voices should be heard and this matter should be escalated.
I had the same issue and now my synchro ring has failed on the 4th gear.
What's more is my friends car had the exact same issue a few months back. His synchro ring failed, also on the 4th gear.
The problem I'm facing now with my dealer in the United Arab Emirates is that they've gotten a reply back from PAG stating to replace the transmission BUT it will not be covered under warranty.
PAG have requested for the transmission to be sent to them and for them to inspect it . This process will take 8-12 weeks . During this time PAG want to confirm if the transmission has been "miss used"
during this time I have to give $20,000 to my dealer to have this issue sorted out as it is "not under warranty" as of now.
The dealer has checked the transmission & could not find anything wrong with it. They are suspecting the synchro ring to have failed.
The problem is that Porsche don't sell this part separately (the synchro ring) they only sell the whole transmission as a whole piece .
Long story short my synchro ring has failed, my dealer won't replace it under warranty because they have not gotten the approval from PAG to do so .
I find it frustrating that the warranty is not respected and that I'm being forced to pay $20,000 for an entire transmission because a synchro ring has failed, which of course I'm refusing to pay.
Our voices should be heard and this matter should be escalated.
#112
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How many miles on your car? Wonder if that has an impact with this real issue.
The synchro failure possibility was raised early on. Porsche with this stuff takes their time when they know it could effect a fair amount of cars, ie IMS with the 2001-2005 996.
Agree with last post that owners should not accept the answer dealer gives them. The design to flex in 4th gear can't possibly be what was wanted on an otherwise rock solid car.
The synchro failure possibility was raised early on. Porsche with this stuff takes their time when they know it could effect a fair amount of cars, ie IMS with the 2001-2005 996.
Agree with last post that owners should not accept the answer dealer gives them. The design to flex in 4th gear can't possibly be what was wanted on an otherwise rock solid car.
#113
Hi guys, I've been reading your thread and I personally think all GT3 owners facing this issue SHOULD be concerned.
I had the same issue and now my synchro ring has failed on the 4th gear.
What's more is my friends car had the exact same issue a few months back. His synchro ring failed, also on the 4th gear.
The problem I'm facing now with my dealer in the United Arab Emirates is that they've gotten a reply back from PAG stating to replace the transmission BUT it will not be covered under warranty.
PAG have requested for the transmission to be sent to them and for them to inspect it . This process will take 8-12 weeks . During this time PAG want to confirm if the transmission has been "miss used"
during this time I have to give $20,000 to my dealer to have this issue sorted out as it is "not under warranty" as of now.
The dealer has checked the transmission & could not find anything wrong with it. They are suspecting the synchro ring to have failed.
The problem is that Porsche don't sell this part separately (the synchro ring) they only sell the whole transmission as a whole piece .
Long story short my synchro ring has failed, my dealer won't replace it under warranty because they have not gotten the approval from PAG to do so .
I find it frustrating that the warranty is not respected and that I'm being forced to pay $20,000 for an entire transmission because a synchro ring has failed, which of course I'm refusing to pay.
Our voices should be heard and this matter should be escalated.
I had the same issue and now my synchro ring has failed on the 4th gear.
What's more is my friends car had the exact same issue a few months back. His synchro ring failed, also on the 4th gear.
The problem I'm facing now with my dealer in the United Arab Emirates is that they've gotten a reply back from PAG stating to replace the transmission BUT it will not be covered under warranty.
PAG have requested for the transmission to be sent to them and for them to inspect it . This process will take 8-12 weeks . During this time PAG want to confirm if the transmission has been "miss used"
during this time I have to give $20,000 to my dealer to have this issue sorted out as it is "not under warranty" as of now.
The dealer has checked the transmission & could not find anything wrong with it. They are suspecting the synchro ring to have failed.
The problem is that Porsche don't sell this part separately (the synchro ring) they only sell the whole transmission as a whole piece .
Long story short my synchro ring has failed, my dealer won't replace it under warranty because they have not gotten the approval from PAG to do so .
I find it frustrating that the warranty is not respected and that I'm being forced to pay $20,000 for an entire transmission because a synchro ring has failed, which of course I'm refusing to pay.
Our voices should be heard and this matter should be escalated.
#114
Intermediate
Sorry to hear you're being forced to go through this totally unnecessary saga..FWIW my OPC in the UK replaced a virtually new 991.2 Manual gearbox under warranty about a year ago,It was suffering from this 4th gear flex as the only symptom and after the OPC technician examined it, the whole gearbox was replaced without quibble FOC..I know this is a 100% fact.!
I really feel like I'm facing a brick wall here .
The car is new and should not be facing this issue .this should be covered under warranty, or another alternative should he provided instead of paying $20,000 / €15,000 .
#115
Intermediate
The mileage on the car is 11,500 kms to be exact right now . Thats approximately 7,200 miles.
I took delivery March 2018 - so it's 11 months old, however this problem occurred 6 weeks ago from this date .
I took delivery March 2018 - so it's 11 months old, however this problem occurred 6 weeks ago from this date .
#116
thanks for the info
Last edited by Bobby 911; 06-07-2019 at 02:32 PM.
#117
Drifting
Hi guys, I've been reading your thread and I personally think all GT3 owners facing this issue SHOULD be concerned.
I had the same issue and now my synchro ring has failed on the 4th gear.
What's more is my friends car had the exact same issue a few months back. His synchro ring failed, also on the 4th gear.
The problem I'm facing now with my dealer in the United Arab Emirates is that they've gotten a reply back from PAG stating to replace the transmission BUT it will not be covered under warranty.
PAG have requested for the transmission to be sent to them and for them to inspect it . This process will take 8-12 weeks . During this time PAG want to confirm if the transmission has been "miss used"
during this time I have to give $20,000 to my dealer to have this issue sorted out as it is "not under warranty" as of now.
The dealer has checked the transmission & could not find anything wrong with it. They are suspecting the synchro ring to have failed.
The problem is that Porsche don't sell this part separately (the synchro ring) they only sell the whole transmission as a whole piece .
Long story short my synchro ring has failed, my dealer won't replace it under warranty because they have not gotten the approval from PAG to do so .
I find it frustrating that the warranty is not respected and that I'm being forced to pay $20,000 for an entire transmission because a synchro ring has failed, which of course I'm refusing to pay.
Our voices should be heard and this matter should be escalated.
I had the same issue and now my synchro ring has failed on the 4th gear.
What's more is my friends car had the exact same issue a few months back. His synchro ring failed, also on the 4th gear.
The problem I'm facing now with my dealer in the United Arab Emirates is that they've gotten a reply back from PAG stating to replace the transmission BUT it will not be covered under warranty.
PAG have requested for the transmission to be sent to them and for them to inspect it . This process will take 8-12 weeks . During this time PAG want to confirm if the transmission has been "miss used"
during this time I have to give $20,000 to my dealer to have this issue sorted out as it is "not under warranty" as of now.
The dealer has checked the transmission & could not find anything wrong with it. They are suspecting the synchro ring to have failed.
The problem is that Porsche don't sell this part separately (the synchro ring) they only sell the whole transmission as a whole piece .
Long story short my synchro ring has failed, my dealer won't replace it under warranty because they have not gotten the approval from PAG to do so .
I find it frustrating that the warranty is not respected and that I'm being forced to pay $20,000 for an entire transmission because a synchro ring has failed, which of course I'm refusing to pay.
Our voices should be heard and this matter should be escalated.
You said, "The dealer has checked the transmission and has not found anything wrong with it."
Then you say repeatedly that your synchro has failed.
So which is it?
Are you trying to get the dealer to replace transmission under warranty due to the shifter movement, or is there some other actual issue you're experiencing?
It sounds like the dealer says sorry there's nothing wrong with a little movement and you're insisting they replace it anyway.
#118
Intermediate
What's the actual "problem" with your transmission? Will it not go into gear? Is it popping out of gear? Will it not send power to the wheels? Is it grinding? What's the actual issue you're experiencing other than a little shifter flex in 4th?
You said, "The dealer has checked the transmission and has not found anything wrong with it."
Then you say repeatedly that your synchro has failed.
So which is it?
Are you trying to get the dealer to replace transmission under warranty due to the shifter movement, or is there some other actual issue you're experiencing?
It sounds like the dealer says sorry there's nothing wrong with a little movement and you're insisting they replace it anyway.
You said, "The dealer has checked the transmission and has not found anything wrong with it."
Then you say repeatedly that your synchro has failed.
So which is it?
Are you trying to get the dealer to replace transmission under warranty due to the shifter movement, or is there some other actual issue you're experiencing?
It sounds like the dealer says sorry there's nothing wrong with a little movement and you're insisting they replace it anyway.
6 weeks ago, I went out for a drive and as I engaged 4th it made a sound and the feeling was as though you have not enganged the clutch .
I took it to the dealership immediately the next day .
PAG has not given permission to any Porsche dealership to dismantle the transmission.
With that said the dealership done all their checks apart from dismantling the transmission and could not find a fault code. That is what I mean by "they saying nothing is wrong with the transmission"
They did confirm however from driving the car that this is the synchro ring, and from my knowledge this is 99% the case.
To summarize all the gears work fine, other than the 4th gear. Once I engage the 4th gear it makes a sound and makes a feeling as if you have not engaged the clutch while shifting to 4th.
#119
Drifting
At first the gear would move just as described in this thread, only on 4th gear .
6 weeks ago, I went out for a drive and as I engaged 4th it made a sound and the feeling was as though you have not enganged the clutch .
I took it to the dealership immediately the next day .
PAG has not given permission to any Porsche dealership to dismantle the transmission.
With that said the dealership done all their checks apart from dismantling the transmission and could not find a fault code. That is what I mean by "they saying nothing is wrong with the transmission"
They did confirm however from driving the car that this is the synchro ring, and from my knowledge this is 99% the case.
To summarize all the gears work fine, other than the 4th gear. Once I engage the 4th gear it makes a sound and makes a feeling as if you have not engaged the clutch while shifting to 4th.
6 weeks ago, I went out for a drive and as I engaged 4th it made a sound and the feeling was as though you have not enganged the clutch .
I took it to the dealership immediately the next day .
PAG has not given permission to any Porsche dealership to dismantle the transmission.
With that said the dealership done all their checks apart from dismantling the transmission and could not find a fault code. That is what I mean by "they saying nothing is wrong with the transmission"
They did confirm however from driving the car that this is the synchro ring, and from my knowledge this is 99% the case.
To summarize all the gears work fine, other than the 4th gear. Once I engage the 4th gear it makes a sound and makes a feeling as if you have not engaged the clutch while shifting to 4th.
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