992 GT3 to be turbo
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
992 GT3 to be turbo
Not sure how accurate but thought I would share
https://www.motormag.com.au/news/180...be-400kw-turbo
https://drivetribe.com/p/next-gen-91...RvOa7rP8OlKG2g
https://www.motormag.com.au/news/180...be-400kw-turbo
https://drivetribe.com/p/next-gen-91...RvOa7rP8OlKG2g
#2
Race Director
Not sure how accurate but thought I would share
https://www.motormag.com.au/news/180...be-400kw-turbo
https://drivetribe.com/p/next-gen-91...RvOa7rP8OlKG2g
https://www.motormag.com.au/news/180...be-400kw-turbo
https://drivetribe.com/p/next-gen-91...RvOa7rP8OlKG2g
#3
Rennlist Member
As much as I do not believe it- I think the info is correct. I think, for certain, the RS is going FI and maybe the GT3 has one more life cycle. I think the GT4 will continue to be NA for the next few iterations because rumor is they will be using the detuned 4.0 which they can milk for awhile.
Last edited by Drifting; 02-06-2018 at 08:16 AM.
#4
Racer
But if the GT3 or GT3RS goes FI, wouldn't that make them the GT2 and GT2RS respectively?
Porsche just developed that N/A 4.0L. It would seem pretty silly of them to spend the resources developing that engine, then only put it in the GT3 for one model year. I have to think that they planned to amortize the costs over a few years. And if that is the case, I don't think they'd rely on just the GT4/Spyder to spread out those costs.
Unless emissions forces their hand, I would imagine that Porsche would keep offering a N/A GT3 at the least. They know there's a strong market for it.
Porsche just developed that N/A 4.0L. It would seem pretty silly of them to spend the resources developing that engine, then only put it in the GT3 for one model year. I have to think that they planned to amortize the costs over a few years. And if that is the case, I don't think they'd rely on just the GT4/Spyder to spread out those costs.
Unless emissions forces their hand, I would imagine that Porsche would keep offering a N/A GT3 at the least. They know there's a strong market for it.
#5
Looking into the emissions regulations and the hard time other manufactures are having, the GT3 NA looks kind of doomed. For the tests where the 991.2 GT3 was approved remember it is far more polluting that a BMW M4 for example, the new tests are basically more "real". More nox will be present and more pollution in general.
I think we can expect to have an electric/na GT3 best case scenario. The bad thing about that is the AT only issue
I think we can expect to have an electric/na GT3 best case scenario. The bad thing about that is the AT only issue
#6
Race Director
I think the "GT2" could be done. Once the GT3 RS goes FI I see no place for it.
The GT4 will be the car to watch. It could stay NA for many years to come and not step on the GT3 as these FI engines just produce so much HP/Torque the GT4 will not catch it. They can finally put the ideal power in to the GT4
The GT4 will be the car to watch. It could stay NA for many years to come and not step on the GT3 as these FI engines just produce so much HP/Torque the GT4 will not catch it. They can finally put the ideal power in to the GT4
#7
Rennlist Member
if they will manage a NA engine. in the GT3. (and GT4)
they will also do a GT3RS with it.
the rest is GT2RS. maybe not ‚limited‘ this time.
but why they should not bring also a NA RS version if engine is available. ‚doesn‘t matter‘ the laptimes. therefore is the GT2RS.
because there is a small market. for (the last) NA RS.
they will also do a GT3RS with it.
the rest is GT2RS. maybe not ‚limited‘ this time.
but why they should not bring also a NA RS version if engine is available. ‚doesn‘t matter‘ the laptimes. therefore is the GT2RS.
because there is a small market. for (the last) NA RS.
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#8
Burning Brakes
I think the "GT2" could be done. Once the GT3 RS goes FI I see no place for it.
The GT4 will be the car to watch. It could stay NA for many years to come and not step on the GT3 as these FI engines just produce so much HP/Torque the GT4 will not catch it. They can finally put the ideal power in to the GT4
The GT4 will be the car to watch. It could stay NA for many years to come and not step on the GT3 as these FI engines just produce so much HP/Torque the GT4 will not catch it. They can finally put the ideal power in to the GT4
If the 992 GT3 ends up with an FI motor and 550hp, I could imagine the 992 GT3RS having the same motor with 600hp, and the 992 GT2RS having 750hp+.
There is still room in the line up for three models, but it will start to get foggy for sure.
#10
Instructor
I don’t see why they’d continue the NA 4.0 in the GT4 and not at least the 992.1 GT3. They might be able to squeeze 525 out of the 4.0. Aren’t we all guessing 520-525 for the 991.2 RS?
The 992.2 GT3 might need to be the FI for greater than 525 hp without greater emissions from a larger NA engine.
The 992.2 GT3 might need to be the FI for greater than 525 hp without greater emissions from a larger NA engine.
#11
Race Director
The whole 911 lineup will look very similar to what it is now imo. You will have the standard 911 daily drivers with average power, and civilized manners on the street. Order them in rwd or awd. Then you move up to the more performance oriented dd (aka GTS), then the big horsepower daily driver Turbo. The GT cars will have the track focused GT3, higher powered GT3 RS, and the monster powered GT2 RS. Nothing changes really. They all have their niches.
#12
I think 911 line up will lose a significant market differentiation if GT line moves to turbo. There are so many make/model you can have with turbo/pdk combination.
What makes GT3 NA so desirable is its uninque combo NA, PDK/manual, 9000RM, exhaust note, etc. Most these will go away if GT goes turbo.
Why not just get a Turbo S and be done with it? Why have GT line at all? Just add a bigger wing to a Turbo S and there you go.
What makes GT3 NA so desirable is its uninque combo NA, PDK/manual, 9000RM, exhaust note, etc. Most these will go away if GT goes turbo.
Why not just get a Turbo S and be done with it? Why have GT line at all? Just add a bigger wing to a Turbo S and there you go.
#13
spot on I think it’s insane and has turned into a big stick contest. Was playing on the track with my buddies turbo s that launching makes you grit your teeth. Post my RS, I think that car had more than enough power that usable.
#14
Rennlist Member
I do not think going turbo will hurt a bit in the desirability department. The current GT2RS is the perfect example. They took a NA GT3RS, put a turbo S engine in it, which does not even have a true dry sump, and are asking 100K over the 3RS. Guess what? People are lined up drooling for one.
As along as these cars are fast, have the letters "GT" and / or "RS" in them, the desirability will always be there.
As along as these cars are fast, have the letters "GT" and / or "RS" in them, the desirability will always be there.
#15
I do not think going turbo will hurt a bit in the desirability department. The current GT2RS is the perfect example. They took a NA GT3RS, put a turbo S engine in it, which does not even have a true dry sump, and are asking 100K over the 3RS. Guess what? People are lined up drooling for one.
As along as these cars are fast, have the letters "GT" and / or "RS" in them, the desirability will always be there.
As along as these cars are fast, have the letters "GT" and / or "RS" in them, the desirability will always be there.